The outfield arrives and talks…

Manny Ramirez, Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier all reported early today, and Manny chatted with the media a few minutes ago.

He said that he hit quite a bit this offseason to try and figure out the mechanical issues that had him a bit off during the end of last season. He also said that he expects this to be his last year at the Dodgers so he’s going to enjoy it as much as possible. His funniest line, I thought, was when he told reporters that from the waste down, he feels 15 years old but from the neck up, he feels 43.

Anyway, that’s the buzz around camp at the moment. Andre and Matt haven’t really spoken yet to the media in a group, but I know Ken Gurnick chatted with Andre when the clubhouse opened, so I’m sure stories will be on the front of the site soon.


  1. enchantedbeaver

    Y’all realize that a flatline salary scale through 2018 precludes the club from keeping the core group intact through their first few years of free agency.

    Enjoy them this year and next gang, that’s it.

  2. enchantedbeaver

    This ownership counts on the fact that they can put whatever product they want out there at whatever price they want to charge and people will still come in droves to the ballpark. The only way to hit them where they live is to wise-up and not play the game. I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to charge for the blog yet. They do and I’m outta here because I won’t support these clowns in any way, shape or form.

    Only reason I’m relatively calm is because opening day is only 62 days away.


    I’m sure that somewhere in yet undisclosed future plans is for Frank (#482+++) to charge an annual fee for participation in ITD. That’s, of course, if MLB will let them – what, with Selig in charge, is there any doubt?

  4. enchantedbeaver

    I’d say, support the boys, but boycott the ownership. Don’t go to games and don’t buy their overpriced souvenirs. Less revenue is the ONLY thing the McLeverages understand. And make no mistake, less revenue isn’t going to impact the core group because there’s no way in hell they’re going to keep them when they become free agents anyway.


    Manny says that he expects this to be his last year with the Dodgers! REALLY? On the first day he reports to camp? Can’t we just concentrate on the job at hand? I for one will be counting the days…see ya Manny!

  6. demrmybums

    A lot of negative comments. This is spring, be happy baseball is about to start, we have a chance to go all the way. It seems that every year there are a lot of crybabies out there. If you can’t get just the players you want you complain and gripe. Grow up, and enjoy the game for what it is, a great competition, where any team can win on any day. The best pitcher can be beat and the weakest hitter can be the hero. Enjoy the day for we do not know what tomorrow will bring. Go Dodgers!!!

  7. nellyjune


    Just getting ready for the fun to begin πŸ™‚

    …………..and yes, May 18th has been marked on my calendar for some time now πŸ™‚

  8. nellyjune

    Wow!! I haven’t been on PST in a lonnng time, and I thought I was comment 16, but that would be you Dodger4life.


    I can see another season of discontent approaching before my very eyes. Remember all the shenanigans, to put it politely, that Manny underwent with the Sox before they unloaded him? For Manny to state up front that this is his last season with the Dodgers is totally out of place before the season has even started. What kind of mindset is he bringing to this season for us? I knew that Frank and Ned were overdoing it with the two year deal, especially when the second year was at the option of Manny only. I hope this does not portend the kind of season that Manny last spent in Beantown.

    What we need is to prepare a stud for our outfield to fully take over next season when Manny is finally gone. I don’t think Manny’ll be producing much, and I’d like to see him gone to DH duty somewhere else by the end of July.

    In the meantime, what’s the status of Mannywood going to be? Do we need to exhibit a few dumpsters out there in LF – preferably with Frank’s picture on one, Ned’s on the other.

  10. Dodger4life

    Bear…So far Manny has showed up on time to spring training. For the betterment of the team, this is good. I have said that as long as Manny acts in a Dodger Pride fashion….I am behind him 100%!! We all knew he was destined for the A.L soon…. this is not surprising news. Yes, I agree that one of the youngsters need to be prepped for his departure……I understand your perspective on Manny though πŸ™‚
    GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!

  11. oldbrooklynfan

    I Folks,
    It will be sad to see Manny go, no matter what kind of a year he has but I know we all want to see him finish in a blase of glory.


    From the for what is worth department:

    I have been in a Dodger season ticket partnership for quite a few years. The partnership used to include 8 partners, meaning we each ended up with 10 games. Last season the ticket owner brought in two more partners because of his concern that rising ticket prices would make it more difficutl to retain partners and/or find replacements for partners who left. While we did not have that much turnover in partners over the years, the rising ticket costs over the past few years has been a concern. For years our seat location did not change. But the past three seasons, including the upcoming one, our location has improved each season. We began in the lodge section down the right field line and we now are just a bit to the right of home plate. The only way this could happen is for whatever reason, long time season ticket holders have given up their seats, allowing other long time season ticket holders a chance to improve. I am not sure how often the ticket owner tried to improve our seats but there has to be a reason we have been able to significantly improve the location, even compared to last season’s location. Draw you own conclusions.

    But this does point to a problem I have mentioned when others have suggested sending a message to ownership that affects its wallet. I can understand giving up tickets because the cost is greater than the customer is willing or able to pay. But to do so just in hopes such a move will influence ownership’s behavior is not a move I am willing to make just yet because even if that behavior does change, those seats will be gone. So if you want to attend the games and can afford to do so, by all means do it. If you want to “send a message”, don’t buy anything while you are there. Bring you own food and resist the other stuff.


    As for Manny, while I suppose it would be been better for him to just say the usual stuff such as, ” I am looking forward to the season”, or ” I will do whatever the manager wants to help this team win”, or ” I worked hard during the offseason getting into shape and working on my hitting”, or “I am concentrating on this season. Let’s wait to see what happens before we talk about next season”, does it really matter what he says? I like Ned’s response: I hope Manny has a banner year and some American league team pays him a lot of money to be a DH next season because that would mean he had a great year for the Dodgers this season. We should be so lucky.

  14. trublu4ever

    Single game tickets go on sale March 6th. However, if you want to see the Yankee game, you have to purchase a Mini-Plan…….Typical management move!


    I’m out here in SE Utah and try to see a game a year, and came out to LA the last time the Yanks were in town. Now it’s impossible with this new mini-plan garbage. It would be impossible for me to get tics for opening day or the Yanks. With these new revelations about the projected salaries, and the new tickets policy, I’ve got to say I’m less than impressed by management.
    I’ve said from the beginning that at some point the other Manny would show up. Hope I’m wrong about that one.
    My wife is dreading the start of the season because of all the swearing that comes along with the Dodger games. Maybe it will not be such a big deal this year.

  16. kpookiemon

    Don’t mean to play Dr. Laura, but the McCourts could have saved themselves a lot of money and grief if they’d just seen a good marriage counselor…you know, each one willing to accept grown-up reality, but determined to grow and make their love right again. God forbid they should make mature choices. Fashioning a financial empire obviously left them vacant. I don’t believe in irreconcilable differences..that is until one or the other starts unzipping his/her pants. Then the whole shebang is blown right out of the water. Just ask Tiger. Spoiled children. No wonder Madame Jamie needs a million bucks a month. But I draw the line when these two carpetbaggers start urinating on a a storied franchise, and a damn good baseball team, to boot.

    And I’ll echo northstates…Manny is being honest; he’s a DH waiting to happen.

    And I’ll second northstates…Bring on Vinny… I can rinse this whole McCourt taste out of my mouth.

    lbirken, my buddy gave up his decades-old box when Frank started hammering away at the front row box seats of Field Level. We used to sit three rows back. Seems like a couple of owners and a lifetime ago…

  17. northstateblues

    Trublu: That’s because, as a Bostonian, I’m sure our owner is used to relying on the Yankees to boost ticket sales.

    Manny says this is gonna be his last year? Who’s surprised? Who wanted a 39 year old Manny next year in the DH-less (and therefore supported by God πŸ˜‰ ) NL? This is a relative non-story, and Manny, battered by PED accusations and Father Time, can ill afford another temper-tantrum like the one he put Boston through every offseason, and I’m fairly certain Scotty Warbucks reminds him of that every day. We’re getting a driven Manny this year, the only difference between the drive of ’10 Manny and the drive of ’08 Manny is that this Manny is (hopefully) PED-free.

    Jamie McCourt’s lawyers uncover a document detailing plans to raise ticket prices while stifling payroll? Big whoop, she’ll say anything and do anything to get back in charge. I wouldn’t believe anything either of them come up with now. In the land of shady people, these two have set up shop underneath a rainforest canopy. Before long, Frank will be saying that Jamie would move the team to Boston, then Jamie will say that Frank is spending the Think Cure! money at Santa Anita, and then Jamie will say Frank is a doodyhead, then Frank will prepare the “I’m Rubber, You’re Glue” statement.

    Jon Weisman pointed out on Dodger Thoughts that the whole revenue document could’ve been a ploy to get foreign investors to invest in the alleged Dodgers/Beijing/Premiere League partnership by making the Dodgers’ finances look too-good-to-be-true. That would make sense.

    I’m looking forward to reading about the team in the sports pages, and not on TMZ or CourtTV. And I don’t think it’s wise to shoot the messenger. I don’t like it when people come to my job and give me crap because of something my boss is making me do (which the franchise is making the boss do… which the corporation is making the franchise do… etc…), so the thought of doing the same to Josh has never seemed appealing.

    I’m just waiting to hear Vin’s voice again.

  18. Dodger4life

    Did the Dodgers operate at a loss during these years???
    From 2004 through 2009, the McCourts received in excess of $108,000,000 in what was characterized as “ownership distributions” from the McCourt Enterprise. . . . Further, those funds were not reduced by any income tax liabilties because the parties have not paid any federal or California income taxes since they moved to California in 2004.
    Frank and Jamie didn’t…Take that as a positive or a negative…your choice!!!

  19. trublu4ever

    Well said, Northstateblues. And, thanks for your sound reasoning. I too can hardly wait for Vinny to say, “It’s time for Dodger Baseball.”


    Maybe with Manny gone next year the dodgers will go out and buy or trade for their first “in his prime years with even greater upside” transaction of the McCourt era.


    It would be nice to add a young talent to the young talent we have. No one, not even Dodger people could say, well were better. I don’t care about payroll I just care about getting better

  22. nellyjune

    From an article about Dustin Pedroia….

    Pedroia worked with Dodgers’ star Andre Ethier in the offseason in hopes of gaining a step in 2010 to help that already-speedy top of the order score more runs.

    It’s great seeing the word “star” next to Andre’s name. I know he will never take that status for granted, but having been an avid fan of his since he was traded from the A’s, I am glad this day finally came because we Ethieraholics knew it all along. I can’t wait to see how our young core progresses this season. 10 Days and 12 hours until their first spring training game. Can’t wait to see them take the field once again.

  23. crzblue2

    Me Too! I just waiting for Vin to say those magic words “Is time for Dodger Baseball” and also Jaime saying “Se va, se va, despidala con un beso” We are blessed to have them both!
    I can’t wait to see Andre, Kemp, Loney, Jonathan Broxton and the rest of the boys in Blue!
    I can’t wait to see who will be our Spring Training surprise or surprises.
    How is the ITD crazy family?

  24. nellyjune

    Well Shad – We will know soon enough what they have been up to during the off season when we see them on the field in 10 days. Yeah!!!

  25. nellyjune

    In the photo gallery on the home page, Broxton is looking really good, and Casey Blake clean shaven will take some getting used to, but he’s not bad either. There aren’t any photos of Russell where you can specifically tell anything different. Andre looks fabulous!!!

  26. 636566cy

    Let me preface this post by saying that I should’ve been in bed long ago, but I’m fighting insomnia for some reason, so I’m probably a bit cranky as I type this.

    I came across this article while looking at Dodgers articles tonight.,0,1491633.story?track=rss

    I going to take Josh to task for most of what he says due to recent revelations made about ticket prices and revenues generated. Before someone posts the same tired arguement, “Josh is just doing his job,” let me point out that I am not disagreeing with the fact that he is doing his job. What I’m hammering on is the fact that he sounds like a complete shill in this article.

    “The increased ticket prices are the results of rising business costs.” What business costs? Payroll has not risen, stadium improvements were put on hold and if memory serves me correct, the Dodgers have rid themselves of some pretty high-paying roles in the last few months and not replaced those individuals person-for-person. Could the increase be that Frank wants that line of credit to raise so he can continue to withdraw money from the Ticket ATM machine? Hmm….

    “…and no increase in concession prices is expected.” First of all, good, because the prices at the stadium are already borderline criminal. Secondly, he uses a qualifier by saying expected, so I’ll believe it when I don’t see it if you know what I mean.

    “…we’ve kept season ticket prices flat for two years running…” Congratulations on that one. It must have been tough considering that prices went up an average of 25% across the board from the time the McCourts leveraged the team.

    “…we’ve maintained the same parking price for four years in a row…” Uh, parking prices at one time stayed consistent for decades at a time, so no props there. Besides, it went from $7 to $10 to $15, so it’s not like we haven’t already been bent over on this one.”

    “We will always work hard to provide affordable ticket options for all fans.” Is it just me, or is this one of Josh’s goto lines every time an increase comes around? Try something original, will you? You are the VP of Communications, after all.

    “The ticket price increases have no connection to the high-profile divorce of owner Frank McCourt and Jamie McCourt…”
    Probably the only non-BS line in the whole article. I’m sure the increases were coming regardless of the divorce.

    That’s it. I’m done. Good night (I hope).

  27. ramslover

    Alright, ST is officially open…just wish spring was here in Texas, it is a windy 30 plus degrees in Dallas with a slight chance of snow!!! I will kill that groundhog if I ever see him!!!

    As for Manny, I do not have a problem with what he said, it is obvious he will not be back. I did not hear the whole interview so I do not know what he was asked. It is his way of getting it out there, I truly believe he is happy to play in LA and wishes he could stay, but Father Time and Mr McCourt will not allow…Go Manny and produce like you are capable..

    Martin at 231..Hmmm..muscle or excess weight. Time will tell, I really hope he has a big year..maybe his last also with the budget constraints that seem to be coming…

    Josh, I feel for you, you have a no win job. You have to tow the company line and also try to keep the fans pacified…I do not envy your job. It would be easier if the O malleys were still the owners but your current situation has to be tough.

    Lets go Dodgers!!!


    Just a comment here on how I regard Josh’s function, particularly in light of the fine post above by Cy.

    I’ve not had the opportunity to meet him personally, as many of you who attended the ITD event have. I’m sure he is a personable individual and feels that part of his job is to relate to the fans and be a link between them and ownership/ management. Does that make him sacrosanct for a degree of criticism when other fans feel it is due? I view his function here on ITD on two levels. I do appreciate him maintaining this blog and furnishing us the sports related information concerning our team and individual team members. I take his remarks in that respect at face value. When it comes to explaining and justifying the franchise and ownership/ management actions, however, I don’t think he has any more credibility than Punxsutawney Phil – in fact a lot less, because Punxsutawney has at least a 50/50 chance of being right. That shouldn’t subject Josh to insults such as we amply throw the way of Frank and Ned, nor negative remarks toward our ITD members who hold Josh in high regard for their own reasons. I won’t assign one of those numeric designations to Josh, but I won’t buy what he has to tell us about management justification for team finances for instance. As a VP, and probably a highly paid one at that, he’s not just a “messenger”, but part of the overall management with presumably some decision making power, or at least with some advisory influence.

    As to the economic decisions concerning the team, I’m seeing a Mannion influence at work. When you talk about maximizing the brand value, of not selling just single tickets to major attraction games, that all smells of PortaPotty to me. He’s not likely to suck in any of my dollars – due to my distant location, if I have the ability to catch a Dodger game, it will probably be in Seattle or SF. Mannion is clearly not a friend of the “family of four” who can only attend a game or two a year, unless they want to settle for seeing the Pirates or KC on some indistinct evening that doesn’t affect a pennant race. But that’s probably the nature of sports attendance anymore. So, to Mannion and his kin in the sports world, a hearty #482 to you too!

  29. enchantedbeaver

    That’s why I stick to fishing. Its more relaxing, cheaper, and less aggrevating unless you get caught in a snag or lose that 5 friggin’ pound rainbow like I did in the Owens River a few years ago.

  30. kpookiemon

    Ahhh, the glory of Spring Training and the agony of this ownership. It’s not so much the product; I really like this year’s squad…Manny, Kershaw, Ethier, Kemp, maybe a feel-good story like Gagne. And Vinny. But the McCourts are an utter embarrassment to me as a Dodger fan, both in their personal life and their business life. Not sure how the train got so miserably off track, but even one Rupert Murdock or Frank McCourt is too much for any franchise to swallow. We here in Dodger land got two full gulps of the stinking swill.

  31. 636566cy

    Kahli – You make a good point about the embarrassment. However, I would also say that it is not just the ownership (although they drive it all), but the front office in general.


    Kahli, I pretty much supported the McCourts until recently even if I did not support every move. I am convinced Frank and Jamie wanted very much to put a winning team on the field and improve Dodger Stadium. While I am sure Frank still wants very much to win, I too am peeved at what I see as a bit of arrogance and selfishness. I know the Dodgers are a business and need to be run like one but all of that should be transparent to the fans.

    However, I think we should be careful in reacting to all the crap that has been made public and what is to come as Frank and Jamie battle for control of the Dodgers. I have no doubt Jamie’s lawyers will do whatever they can to embarrass Frank and make him look bad, and his lawyers will do the same to her. With the way these two people have acted, making either one look bad will be easy.

  33. trublu4ever

    I find it disturbing that our team was one of the top stories on Sports Nation today…..their #2 story of the day was the fact that a team rich in history and one of the most profitable franchises would not allow the fans to buy a ticket to see the Yankees play. We are going to be an embarassment as long as Frank and or Jamie are in charge. I feel sorry for us, the fans, and the players, who have to put up with all the crap.


    I just took a quick look at the Red Sox web site to see how they are handling tickets and found they are offering tickets to some Yankee games and the Dodger series via a lottery system. And if I am not mistaken, the Angels started charging tiered pricing for their tickets depending upon the opponent a few seasons ago, so it is not only the Dodgers that try to maximize revenue. That being said, I have always been a fan of the saying, “just because something can be done does not always mean that it should”. The Dodger organization has to accept repsonsibility for all its business practices.

  35. 636566cy

    lbirken – I don’t see an issue with the varied pricing structure. It is a reality that is just coming to the Dodgers. However, being unable to buy single tickets for a game and instead being forced to buy at least mini plans is simply unacceptable for the Dodgers. Since when do the Dodgers need to use the visiting team as a marketing ploy? Those games could have all been part of the varied pricing structure and all sold out very easily. However, the front office saw this as an easy way to screw the fans by making them buy tickets to many more games to have the priviledge to have the tickets to one Yankee game. That is absolutely ridiculous.


    All I said is I understand why the Dodgers would take this marketing position. I did not say I agreed with it or that I think it is the right thing to do. I do wonder if anyone in the organization did raise the issue internally and at least asked if the organization was prepared for some negative reaction to this ploy. Actually, I think the Red Sox idea of offering such highly sought after tickets in a some sort of lottery system makes a lot of sense.

  37. Dodger4life

    I believe Frank is fine threaded metal fastenering us fans….when we should tell him to go get self tappered!!!

  38. jhallwally

    I’m speechless Trumom!! Our owners are not really in this for the right reasons. They’re not concerned with returning us to the elite of baseball. Just making some cash and living the high life. JMO!!!

  39. trublu4ever

    I know exactly how you feel, Jhall. Most of us share your frustration. I was just having a little fun with you πŸ™‚

  40. jhallwally

    Steinbrenner wasn’t just happy making money, he wanted to be the best and return the Yankees to their previous glory. I didn’t care for him but he had the balls to make it happen. My hats off to him now. Frank obviously doesn’t have the ‘nads!! Jamie will vouch for that!!!! :)))

  41. trublu4ever

    I always admired Steinbrenner for going out and getting whatever it took in order to give the Yankee fans a winner. I also wish “Nads” would do the same. lol

  42. nedajerk

    Oh really Manny 5 more years 3 more with the Dodgers and 2 more years in Japan or maybe he was talking about 2 more years with the Japan team lol.

  43. jhallwally

    :))) Goodnight Trumom!!! Thanks for the being here. Hope you have a great night and a beautiful tomorrow!!! Excelsior True Believers!!!

  44. dodgereric

    Negative, negative, negative. We’re all so negative about the Dodgers here. Well, we have company. There are several new articles in The LA Times about our team, all on the first few inches of their their website as I write this.

    One, about Russell Martin’s new body, is not negative. It will hopefully correct his power loss of last season:,0,594653,full.story

    Two, about the McCourts not paying any taxes could be read as negative:,0,5865964.column

    Three, a new Simers article claims to be positive. But you know TJ, it’s sarcastic:,0,2623560.column

    Four, about the Yankee ticket scam (and that’s a polite term for what it is), is negative. I’ve read the previous posts about this but didn’t know that the LEAST amount of games you would have to buy for in these “mini-plans” is 14! FOURTEEN games! Now, while supply-and-demand might well be totally legal, so was carpetbagging in the post-Civil War south. As usual, lbirken said it quite well when he said, “just because something can be done does not always mean that it should”. The article:,0,4045943.story

    Five, Mrs McCourt may succeed in dragging the divorce trial until October. I certainly don’t view this as a positive:,0,1393540.story

    Six, the “tempest in a teapot” story about how Ramirez says this is his last season with the Dodgers and it’s carrying into a second day. No kidding. What idiot thinks otherwise?,0,6422376.story

    So it would seem that it’s not just us ITD malcontents. Does it?

    Look, McCourt. You had yourself a nice little run here. Now go. Get out. Sell the team before the courts say you need your ex-wife’s permission. You obviously intend on spending the minimum necessary to keep the attendance from falling. We deserve better than you.

    We deserve better than you.

    We deserve better than you.

    We deserve better than you.

  45. trublu4ever

    Good Morning, ITDland ~ was reading the posts I missed last night and, thank you, Dodgereric, for backing up what the majority of us have been saying.

  46. 636566cy

    lbirken – Didn’t have a chance to get back on last night, but I wanted to say that I agree with your second point and sorry if I came off as criticizing you on my followup to your first post…it was really more me getting on a soapbox than anything else.

    To your points in the followup to my post, I would hope that the Dodgers have internal discussions about possible reactions to their decisions (that seems like a good business practice), but one never can tell with this front office. As far as the lottery system goes for tickets, I agree that seems like a much more fair way to go then making fans by tickets to 14 additional games just to be able to buy tickets to the Yankee games.

  47. trublu4ever

    Cy ~ I know you had a different name before but, for the life of me, cannot remember what it was. Love your posts. Keep up the good work!


    With all the focus on foreign ownership partners, I’m wondering how you say “Mannywood” in chinese.

  49. nellyjune

    Good Morning ITD readers and writers!!! Great reading by all yesterday and last night.

    lbirken and cy – always love reading your two cents worth.

    dodgereric – thanks for all literature to back up what we have been saying.

    I don’t view us as being negative. We are just stating what are the issues facing the Dodgers as an organization. I don’t think anybody here, once the season begins, will take any of their frustrations with management out on the players. I can parallel this to our current situation with education. I love my job and always will (I think) but I criticize and strongly dislike how the government (federal, state, local, and district) is handling our schools. We are heading into major budget issues once again, which will affect jobs and loss of programs once again. However, with all the things happening around us in education, the students are still arriving in the classroom, and it’s my job to teach them and they need to be unaffected by what is happening around them.

  50. kpookiemon


    Trouble is, like Clint Eastwood says at the end of Unforgiven, “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”

  51. 636566cy

    Tru – my former name was clhuerth, but I got tired of seeing such a bland name when all of you had such creative ones:) Also, thanks for the kinds words. I just try to give as honest an opinion as I can when I think I have something to contribute.

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