Leading off...

What a shock! The Aussie is first. Shame about Clayton but I always thought he was promoted far too soon.

i did not see that kershaw move coming.. i hope the kid doesn't take it too hard.. keep playing hard kersh!

I know I said I was going before, and I'll be gone after this post but I had to say that I'm not surprised the Kersh was sent back down. He'll be great, no doubt. But I feel he needs more time in the minors. I'm not concerned; he will do great things for us in the future!

repost for jnv :)

jnv - LMAO!!! Well, I married a gnats fan - so what does that tell you? Absolutely crazy sometimes!!! The theory fits so well, it's scary - once again, I have watched too many episodes of the Sopranos. My husband believes it too because why on earth would the Dodgers hire a former gnat to run the organization, and he has a hey day with Conte and Torre now ~ LOL!!!

By dnelly_ae16@sbcglobal.net on July 2, 2008 3:30 PM

josh didn't post the actual lineup, except to say kemp would be leading off again.. but someone posted it at the end of the last thread, so here it is for those who missed it..

Kemp, CF

Ethier, RF

Martin, C

Kent, 2B

Loney, 1B

DeWitt, 3B

Young, LF

Maza, SS

Kuroda, P

i like the lineup.. let's make it two in a row boys!

this is about as consistent as torre can be with the lineup.. switched ethier for delwyn, and subbed dewitt for laroche.. it's exactly what i wanted to see..

I would rather see Kershaw stay up with the big club and watch Sweeny march off into retirement!!! What a JOKE this FO is!!!

this is from the press-enterprise, with a quote from kersh:

The Dodgers have optioned 20-year-old rookie left-hander Clayton Kershaw to Class AA Jacksonville the day after he made his 17th professional start of the season without getting a win. Kershaw found out about 10 minutes ago and was packing his things. "It's disappointing, but it's a business," he said. "I'm going to Jacksonville to keep pitching like I'm supposed to. I didn't expect it. Right now, I'm just disappointed." Mark Sweeney saw Kershaw with media gathered around his locker and told Kershaw, "Keep going, buddy."

crzblue - I mentioned this on previous thread, but I am assuming if you are going to the 80's luncheon, it was worth it? - the price is more reasonable than I expected - thanks. My mom would have really liked the 70's, but she is really looking forward to the 80's now.

Sara,
Sweeny should have said "Hey Kid thanks for taking that bullet for me, we both know I should be the one packing my things"
And Kersh would say "You Think mr. .096"

It's ok. Kersh is just getting started. He has 20 plus years ahead of him!!

I will sadly miss the game tonight because I will be at the Hollywood Bowl's Tribute to the Dodgers. Is anyone else going? It's supposed to be spectacular.

You all have to update me on tomorrow's blog.

Afterthought. I got to see the Dodgers Star on the walk of fame this last Tuesday. It was such a great experience, I really can't describe it. Unfortunetly, they are next to the Victoria's Secret Star AND a vendor cart with cheap plastic jewelry was blocking it!

You Can't Win With Kids©
Sung to You Can't Hurry Love by the Supremes.

I need vets, vets to ease my mind.
I need to sign, sign some bum past their prime.
And Neddy says
You can't win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
He said, vets are more seasoned.
They'll lead our kids and get more hits.

You can't win with kids.
No, you must play the fakes.
You've got to trust the vets in decline.
No matter how long it takes.

But how many losses.
Must we stand, before we play the kids.
That let us win someday.
They are the only thing.
That keeps us hanging on.
When I feel the team, yeah,
Is going young.
I remember Furter said.

You can't win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
He says the vets will see us thru.
From the kids at bats they'll take.
How long must they wait.
How much can the vets skate.
Before ineptitude, will cause the team to tank.

No, I can't bear to watch Fat Andruw Jones.
I grow impatient for Frank, to send Colletti home.
And when I see Phew,
I can't go on.
Ned's ignorant words, I keep gaggin' on.
I remember Neddy said.

You can't win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
The vets are our leaders.
From the kids at bats they'll take.
You can't win with kids.
No, they just have to wait.

He said trust the vets in decline.
No matter how the young guys rake.

No wins, wins don't come easy.
So we keep on failing.
Anticipating, for that old vet
To come thru some night.
For a stronger arm.
And Andre every night.
We keep waiting.
We keep on waiting.
But it ain't easy.
Cause Neddy says.

You can't win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
He said the vets are more seasoned.
They'll bridge the gap for heavens sake.

You can't win with kids.
No, they just have to wait.

exactly jnv. hilarious. there are also a couple guys in the bullpen, ie. falkenborg or troncoso, who could say the same thing.. minus the .096 part ;)

I'm telling you if it wasn't for Torre the Kid would have at least one win if not more!!!

FIRE TORRE
FIRE EVERYONE THAT IS INVOLVED!!!! This FO SUCKS!!! (Except White and NG)

Hey Amy, cool info on the Dodger Star. Have fun at the Dodger tribute, it will be fun.

sara - I am assuming they put Andre back in the 2 hole because of last night. They are not going to walk Matt to get to Andre and then onto Russell. If you were at softball last night for this part, they intentionally walked Matt to get to Delwyn. Matt has protection now and so does Andre because you can't bat around them because of Russell, Kent and Loney to follow. See how much better things look without Pierre in there. Young can still hit at the bottom - he's just a little more unpredictable so you never know what he will do.

Sara,
Your right Troncoso or Falkenborg should have been sent down if Mr. .096 wasn't DFA'd, except those are Torres buddies. I swear I want to work for Torre and Colletti, where else in the world can you go to work and be the absolute worst at your job and still have managements approval????

If Sweeny got hurt would Torre still put him out there? I mean he used to be a PH and even on crutches he could get a swing or two in??? What do you think?

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! I gotta go, everyone have a great night and look forward to our conversations tomorrow!! :-)

I think this is a good move and DeWitt should be next. Go down and dominate, work out a few things and then come back for good (hopefully)

I meant, number the posts. That way if I want to make a comment about post # 357, I don't have to copy and paste the entire post on my post. I just have to say, "In response to post #357, I agree you are correct, Ned along with JoJo need to be fired, and Logan White Needs to steer the ship."

Hi amy - have fun tonight sounds like a blast !!!!
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jhall - you are definitely back!!! SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!!
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I hope Sweeney really appreciates Joe right now because all of us and all the other boards involving Dodger baseball would've had him thrown out on his *** by now. :)

Sweeny's last words to Kershaw, "Keep going Buddy" ugh!

Thanks Nell'. Didn't see the Kersh demotion coming. I can't believe they are keeping Sweeney. Geez!!!

Dnel,
This is the last I posted on the prior thread:
Dnel,
tickets are $75 but they do include a ticket to the game in the Reserved section. If you want Loge then is a little more. Also you get to go to the stadium early so you don't pay for parking. They will direct you where to park. Once is over it should be close to BP. We stayed in the left field sitting in the shade being surpervised by ushers so we would not be asking the boys for baseballs or talking with them or asking for autographs.
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Yes, to me it was worth it seeing the boys of the 70's even if I see some of them at the stadium like Garv and Cey but is one thing to see them go by and greet them than for them to be there spending time with the fans. You can bring anything you like to be signed. You've be surprised what people bring. There was someone that brought one of those white athletic shoes with the logo and had it signed by all the boys there. there were also big posters.
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I will be at the Hollywood bowl on Friday 7/4. Afterwards I was thinking that I won't see Vin Scully since he will be in San Francisco :-(.

Amy: Let us know what we can take at the Bowl. I know for some events they permit to take wine but for some other concerts they do not so I am not sure.

Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.
I just hate missing Dodger Games. I shouldn't have a social life during the season!

I know DeWitt has been struggling, but if you think about it, all batters 1-7 (sometimes 8 because he does have 1 HR) are very capable of hitting a double or possibly even a homerun. We couldn't say that a few days ago.

anyone from here going to Cooperstown this year? I was thinking about it but now I don't think I can make it.

Been gone (in transition). Too bad about Kershaw going down, but it's understandable. It couldn't be Sweeney, because we don't need 13 pitchers. (If you think they should DFA Sweeney the next time a position player comes off the DL--or sooner--that is obviously justifiable, but they needed a pitcher.
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I actually think it would have made sense to option Falkenborg or Troncoso, and let Kershaw work out of the bullpen. It would keep down his innings and let him work through his experience against big leaguers. Bills did this in 2006 and 2007, and now he's the ace starter. But, obviously, they want him on a starting schedule. I know Vegas is a tough city for a pitcher, but I would have liked him to go back there, and deal with the better hitters. Kershaw's stuff is not the problem--he has great stuff, and getting out AA hitters is not an issue. It's just learning to pitch against the best hitters.
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Anyway, he'll be back in Los Angeles no later than September 1.
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This is good, however, in another way, which is showing that the team has faith in Eric Stults. Stults has been good the last 2 years. He is not the phenom that Kershaw is, and at 28 his arm is mature enough to handle innings. And while I don't see him as a 1 or 2 starter, he might well be a very good 3, 4, or 5 starter. With Lowe almost certainly heading to free agency in the off-season, no guarantees about Schmidt (to, um, say the least), seeing Stults get a real chance this year (this is his last option year), is very good. A rotation of Bills, Kershaw, Penny, Kuroda, and Stults is possible (and, of course, Penny's not exactly free from a history of injuries, and his deal is up in 2009, and there are questions about him).

Thanks crzblue!!! Going to try and get tickets in the next few days :)

OUTSTANDING® jhall!!

jnv - don't get too upset. If they DFA'd Sweeney instead of sending Kersh down, you'd be carrying 13 pitchers. IMO Kersh needs to work on things in a less high-profile environment. If we want a 5-inning pitcher we'll activate Penny. He just need to work on strengthening his arm and building up innings. We'll see him again in September.

When Penny comes back, I'd surmize Troncoso's the next to go.

FIRE JOJO. FIRE NED. (I always like to throw that in at some point in the day.)

Kershaw: You did great kid! and you will be back sooner than you think. Look how long DeWitt was gone before he was called back!

crzblue - no but went a few years ago - have you been?
It is one of our favorite trips of all time :)

Welcome back leefink!! You haven't lost your ability to provide great comments. :)

dnelly, i heard on the radio as they walked kemp. figures they'd do that. but i think the reasoning to move ethier up was because we're facing a righty, rather than to provide protection for kemp..

I guess it makes sense. Kersh can certainly benefit from more time in AA and less pressure. He will be back soon.
Hope Kuroda is 100% tonight. We really need him to anchor the middle of our rotation now.

Thanks E!!!

I went to Cooperstown in April 1999 and it was and always will be one of the top 5 highlights of my baseball life. I still have the T-Shirt that says - " Cooperstown - a small drinking town with a Baseball problem."

Ethier didn't do too bad against the lefty last night (no strikeouts) so hopefully this will be a turn around for him - some confidence, especially without Pierre looking over his shoulder for a while. Either (ethier?lol!) way, this lineup is very,very solid if they can get going at the same time. If I were a pitcher, there is no let up for the first 7 (possibly 8 batters). Like I said above, everyone of them can hit a homerun at any time or minimum a double after double after double .

Too cool Rod!! I hope to get there some day soon.

another quote from kershaw.. this one posted by tony jackson.. he sounds more disappointed in this one.. also a little note about raffy at the end:

I was as surprised as you undoubtedly are, but no one was more surprised that Kershaw himself. Joe Torre stressed, both to Clayton and to the media, that the move was more about needing a roster spot for Hiroki Kuroda, who is coming off the DL and starting tonight, than it was about the way Clayton has pitched. But as Clayton himself said, ``Any way you spin it, I'm getting sent down. They can say they didn't have enough room, but they (brought) me up when they didn't have enough room, because all those (pitchers) were healthy then.'' Haven't gotten a definitive explanation yet of why it's Jacksonville and not Las Vegas, but I'm sure it's because they don't want to subject the kid to the psychological perils of pitching in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League. ... Still nothing on Furcal, but Torre admitted he now has to take on the mindset that Furcal isn't coming back until he does. At this point, I'm not convinced he is coming back at all, but Torre was a bit more cautious. ``We have half a season (left),'' he said. ``I would like to think that is going to happen.''

rodmky - I think my husband has that shirt, too! We went in 2006, and like you said, one of our family's all-time favorites.

dnelly, yes, i thought ethier did rather well last night against *GASP* a lefty.. but until i see joe play ethier against all lefties or at the top of the order against all lefties, i will continue to believe there is no convincing joe of that fact that ethier is just a good hitter regardless of who is pitching..

Kuroda, Lowe, Billingsly, Park, Stults, Penny--Is Penny coming back? With all this pitching confusion and the new 6 man rotation I've lost track of the order. Someone be so kind to type it out for me...all six glorious spots in order please?

understandable why they sent him down, but still sad, considering who else could have gone :(
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He will come back and be our Tim Lincecum and better.

amy, penny may be back to pitch on saturday if he's feeling alright. i think the six man rotation was only if they kept kershaw, but they didn't. park's back in the pen, so it will be a 5-man as long as penny is good to go.

Amy, I think we are all lost right now as far as the rotation and most everything our management does.

This was written in the Times all of, oh, six days ago. Again, Dodger doublespeak:

But whatever trouble Kershaw has had in the majors isn't enough to convince Manager Joe Torre that he would be better served refining his craft in the minors.

"I don't necessarily see him going backward in the quality of his starts," Torre said. "I think he's learning something. It might be something subtle every time out. I don't see him as being lost out there or not feeling he can handle the situation."

Pitching coach Rick Honeycutt said he hasn't even considered the possibility of optioning Kershaw to Jacksonville.

"This is where you want him to continue to improve his trade," Honeycutt said.

Thanks Sara,
You know, life is much simpler when I'd know the rotation by what day it was. Now, everyday I am confused and it's not cool.

With the whiny arms of Kuroda and Penny I doubt Clayton will be gone long. Why not option Torre to AA...he's the one who cost Kershaw his first big league W?

Dnel,
I asked questions for both the 60's and 70's luncheon when Charlie Steiner open it to the fans to ask questions to any of the boys or to share a special day at the park that stands out for us during that decade. If you go, I will also ask "Is Dnel in the house?". lol. Back when I used to post in the Dodger forum, that is how I found Lore when we both attended the first WIn event that was a breafast event. I put my hand up and asked first "does anyone here post in the Dodger forum?". I remember the day 'cause it was 9/9/05 on the 40th anniversary of Koufax perfect game. I looked at the field from the club level restaurant and got chills imagining that day in 1965.

One thing about this lineup....nobody's missing.
Las Vegas should start taking bets.
When will Kershaw win....Major or Minor leagues.
When will Sweeney get his next hit.
Pick the dates.
Nice win last night, taking it after blowing the lead.
It takes good teamwork to do that.
I think we have a good team as is, we just have to put it all together and win, like last night.
Let's get after Runelvys Hernandez and make him work.
LET'S GO KURODA!!!!!!!

pitching. that's what almost cost us the whole game last night.
when we finally make contact with the ball and the bases, our middle relievers mess it up. It's a punch in the stomache.

sara - it's the Pierre factor that's blocking his playing time and that won't go away for at least 1 more year as long as Torre is in charge. I just hope for the next 4-6 weeks these young players prove they can win games without Furcal and Pierre at the top of the order (no pressure mind you - lol!!)

Im not even gonna watch this game tonight. Im so confident we are gonna win!

GO BLUE!

crzblue - it's a deal!!! cool !! :)

It was a funny night our strenght failed us after our weakness succeeded.
But we won, that's all that matters.

what's strange is that my dad had his rehearsal dinner was at Minuet Maid park. I was in high school, Loney probably was somewhere in Houston in high school at the same time. I already asked my stepmom if she's friends with the Loney family, sadly, she said no :( I tried.

crzblue - however, I may be escorted out for all those songs I have done. Maybe I should ask "Where is my Flat Stanley?" LOL!!!! I can already picture enchanted sitting in the back of the room going "He's in left field, you just won't listen, will you?"

It's about time we heard from David Bowie

Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****

Why did you leave me, stealin’ that base and breakin’ your knee, angel?
Come get up, my Juanpy
Look at that damned MRI
Now who’s gonna bat leadoff?
Come get up, my Juanpy

There’s my Juan, hurt that’s all
Who gave that piano to jhall?
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Come get up, my Juanpy

They always slam you, just ‘cause you’re never on base, angel
Come get up, my Juanpy
Throws to second arrive rolling
That’s OK ‘cause by then they’re on third, sliding
Come get up, my Juanpy

I’ll stick with you baby for a thousand years
I’ll never ever bench you ‘till I run out of beers
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Come get up, my Juanpy

One of these days, and it won’t be long
Underneath my pants’ll be a nice tight thong
In the back of a dream car twenty foot long
Don’t cry my sweet, don’t break my heart
We can stay all night in the lot at WalMart
Wish upon, wish upon, day upon day, I believe oh lord
I believe all the way
Come get up, my Juanpy
Run for the shadows, run for the shadows, run for the shadows from the paparazzi

Some day I can get implanted
Maybe that piano came from en-chant-ed
Golden years, gold **** **** ****
Come get up, my Juanpy

Don’t let me hear you say that you’re on the DL, angel
Come get up, my Juanpy
Run for the shadows, run for the shadows
Run for the shadows in my golden years

Ill stick with you baby for a thousand years
It’s your turn to wear the earrings and brassieres
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****
Olden tears, old **** **** ****

no complaints about the lineup. it's been good but you know it's not going to last.... so let's just enjoy this as much as we can.
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Kershaw will be okay, kid's only 20 :( it just sucks cus his family & friends were all there last night & clapping/standing cheering him on.. hopefullly he doesn't take it too hard cus we all know theres great potential in the kid :)
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I'm hoping to see a homerun from either Andre, Kemp, Loney, or Russell tonight.... and maybe a Sweeney appearance too? HAHA wouldn't that just make my night. Why does Torre do that to him, how humiliating.

It was just reported on mlbtv.com that yes, the Dodgers are looking into Matt Holliday, but we were mentioned on along with at least a half a dozen to 10 other teams.

GREAT SONG ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO Eric!!!! Outstanding®. I can only imagine what the asterisked words are. Holy Sh*t, the thong line killed me. Juanpy is Giambi's b*tch.

Off to the Bowl. Watch the game for me. I'll let you know how it goes. Maybe I'll get to see good old Nancy B :)
Go Blue! Go "kids"or to me "young men"

Have a fun and safe night Amy!!

I'm still trying to fill in the blanks LOL!!!!!

Nomar is a definate upgrade over Maza at short. I think we'll go on a run in the 2nd half and win the division.

thankyou jhall :) night!

Also I'm counting how many more of their players we're going to take out during tonight's game. haha...

ANDRE EVERETT ETHIER !!!!!!!!!!!
SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMAZING ERIC!! One of your all-time best!!

LOL! The censored word is straight out of the song, really more of a sound effect than anything else. I never thought that it is also a derogatory and offensive term for a person of Italian lineage. Cripes, my wife's Italian.....I wouldn't DARE!!

Hahahaha you gotta love Ethier.

Nice to see K E N T RED HOT.

and also Kent getting another double.

swood - how's school going?

Too funny Eric. Maybe if E wears a thong it will get Ned fired. LOL!!!

i love scoring first :)

it makes me happy..

remembereric - they sensor ******* (BK sandwich) too LOL!!

I'm thinking that if that song doesn't get me expelled, nothing will.

Eric - perhaps if you said Burger King, Burger King, Burger King, it would've lost something.

I fixed it on our blog by using the number "0" for the letter "o".

i told a friend about the rumor of the day, and pierre carrying a lovechild.. this was his response.. haha

"that's a hilarious rumor of the day. haha. so by the end of the yr, will the lovechild be the everyday rightfielder?"

LMAO!!!!!!! enchanted LMAO!!!!

Nelly, school is going ok. I'm getting ready to take the SAT AGAIN in october. Had a rough go on the finals though. I have a hard time falling asleep knowing the D's are playing =)

These damn thongs are so uncomfortable...

Kershaw will be fine. He just needs more seasoning before coming back up. Too bad he couldn't get a win while he was up. I know of at least two he should have had that were blown. Nice going Kent, to get us a run in the 1st.
GO DODGERS!!!

That's right, I forgot about nelly's trials with that word! LOL!

I'm headin' for the barn, SEE YA!!

Is it the Juan Pierre picture/autograph thong? LOL!! It rides crooked in your crack.

enchanted - LMAO!!!!!!!!! (hmmmmmmm!)

Say "Hi" to Mr. Ed for me!!!

Bye eric - have fun!!!!!!

Must be jhall - I can't score in it either.

Catch you later Eric.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Must be the thong riding crooked and the over the calf black dress socks combo!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the 3rd game in a row we scored in the first? Isn't this also the third game in a row without JP? Correlation? I think so.

These damn thongs are so uncomfortable...

By enchantedsunset@hotmail.com on July 2, 2008 5:19 PM

I don't mind them. Oh! I forgot we wear thongs on our feet down here.

Careful E, Juanpy's mama is grabbing the wooden spoon.

you are absolutely correct Mr. enchanted. Who would have thought? - well, we always did think, unlike this management team LOL!!!!

That's very good rodmky LOL!!!!

About time they have a picture up on Kuroda on yahoo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8167

My god this picture is terrible. They can't get one for Kershaw and Dewitt.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8180;_ylt=AtBKn0oO4c7ZHv27lTW0_zaFCLcF

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8209;_ylt=AkDeCGn5aWCbP8SyFthWGdiFCLcF

So the thong/black dress socks thing is wrong???

now, now, now boys - don't start messing with Juanpy's mama - you know that will eventually lead to Andre getting hurt somehow. Maybe we should send Aybar's mama after her?

Depends on which country you live in .... LOL!!!

Yep E. Unless you are at the early bird special at the local buffet.

Good idea Nelly. LOL!!!

LMAO!!!! watch out!! enchanted's on a roll tonight LOL!!!

enchanted - that is an absolutely horrible image LMAO!!!! from a female standpoint - LMAO!!!!!

Well, that was SOME catching up I had to do. I see the songwriting is still consistently creative AND prolific. I must mention that enchanted taking on "Life is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" was pretty ambitious - nice job.

Now I'm wondering who will be sent down when Nomar comes off the DL this weekend. Things that make you go Hmmmmmm!
I'm hoping it will be Berroa......

Hey it made all the old girls smile and the old guys weep baby!!

MATTHEW RYAN KEMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FABULOUS JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice triple!!!!!

crzblue - I will also be at the Hollywood Bowl on the 4th. We've been there many of the past several years for the Fourth and it's always been the usual rules for food. Alcohol permitted.

PATHETIC!

Kent!!!!!!!!!!!

Well howdy Jeff! Welcome to the Kent show folks.

You've got that right,enchanted LOL!!
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welcome back westernmost (Old Fogey)!!!
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Jeff is having another good night - good!

K E N T is really super after KEMPS nice triple.

Good thing Kent's decided to play ball these last couple games.

Thanks Fogey!!

If Kent can get his hitting timely and consistant it will make it easier for the rest.

Maybe Pierre was holding Jeff back too :)

Grumpy did indeed come through where Ethier and Martin did not. That gets the tongues of the Mondays and Lyons of the world flapping.
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So was the Astro's infield playing in on Martin?

jjriley probably Maza it won't be Sweeney.

A hot Kent drastically changes our offense.

Does anyone else think Towles looks like Carrot Top? lol

jjriley probably Maza it won't be Sweeney.

By shad78@yahoo.com on July 2, 2008 5:49 PM

Sweeney needs to go. Anywhere but here. It wouldn't be very fair if Maza goes. At least he's above the Mendoza line in batting. Berroa just blows offensively, and his defense isn't that spectacular either. Who knows for sure with Joe & Ned at the helm who's going where....

Maza is better than Sweeney and Berroa... but thats not saying much.

Nice hussle from Dewitt there!