Ned's extension...

Wow, you're right. Tomorrow is the first must-win all year... No time for a dress rehearsal, I dont think.

I'm already in shutdown mode.

See you all at Camelback next year, and please tell Broxton to just stay home.

I agree with Scott's post from October 20, 2009 12:05 PM. I would like to add that I feel that Broxton has a closer's arm but not a closer psyche. Hopefully he can develop that in time. Also after Martin singled to tie the score at 2 in the 4th Casey Blake grounded out to end the inning. Wouldn't it have been nice if he would have gotten a bases clearing double. It seems lately we never get the big hit to open up the lead. We are always going into the 9th with either a 1 or 2 run lead and Broxton never has any margin for error. Tomorrow I will root like crazy for the Dodgers, but after last night I don't have any confidence in them to win one game let alone three.

I'm sure the other 29 GM's are very happy with Ned's extension.

One last note on tomorrow's game. Will a Dodgers pitcher please pitch inside tomorrow? Retribution is best served warm, and if I remember correctly Martin got plunked square in the middle of the back and Shane Victorino tried to take out James Loney with a flying shoulder block and cry that it was fielders interference. Someone needs to shut that little twerp up already!

bear, you make look so kind and gentle.

Eric, if nothing else, that clip gives fans some ideas...

My message to Ned is still F You, and contract extension or not, you'll be gone when the ownership changes.

My comment was actually the first on this thread, but Josh apparently didn't like my comment, so it was removed from the thread. So, whoever is doing the censoring, F You too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQgXgS5G3c

I suppose Ned getting an extension is supposed to rally the troops?
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Eric ~ keep up the positive posts to balance out my negativity!

By scott_in_arcadia on October 20, 2009 3:31 PM

I sure hope so. Being down 3-1 could happen the Braves 1996 won the last 3 and the Marlins in 2003.

Let's not forget.....Ned is a genius and Joe is a magician! lol

Good for Ned. Congratulations, after cleaning up DePodesta's mess, and making our team prime-time players again, all while being held at checkbook-point to a shoestring budget, he deserves it.

I don't know how well he'll do, though, when those crybaby, juvenile, Dodger fan hating-and-swindling, LOOK AT ME-ing, ME FIRST-ing, LOOK WHAT I CAN DO-ing, WE'RE BIGGER THAN BECKHAM AND POSH-ing, skinflint, about-to-destroy-our-beloved-franchise-ing, carpetbagging, Frontiere-ing, hornswaggling, hotdogging, bickering, backstabbing, I'll-do-whatever-it-takes-to-keep-the-team-even-though-I-never-had-the-money-nor-the-knowledge-to-run-a-baseball-franchise-let-alone-go-through-a-now-high-profile-divorce-ing, Gee-I-wish-I-had-bought-the-Red-Sox-but-the-Dodgers-are-a-good-enough-silver-medal-I-guess-ing, destroyer of Dodger dreams, clueless of what it means to be a Dodgers fan-ing, about-to-get-Maury-Povich-in-here-ing owner/owners of ours (because who knows what's what, I'm still having trouble making out how these two hoity-toity carpetbaggers got their hands on OUR Dodgers in the first place) will only have lint and bits of string to not only add anything to our club, but to patch up when the young core that was nurtured in Blue will be spread out among the other 29 clubs when they can't afford them.

The McCourts, who I was coming around to like rather much, have REALLY disappointed me. Their spotlight grabbing, which was once a minor annoyance, is now poised to destroy OUR team. And I feel I'm justified in my no-obsenities rant against them, because it's my lifelong favorite squad that they're destroying. My NBA Lakers? Nada. My NFL Raiders? Bupkess, but at least they can beat Philly. Hockey? Sorry, the sport should go back to the country that adores, obsesses over and misses it. The Dodgers, to me, are only below my spirituality and above the Beatles. You mess with them, and I'm not going to sit and take it.

Now, the embarassment we will feel in the offseason will make Broxton's meltdown and the phanatical hating on this blog like two small spots on the windshield left by angry insects who bit off more than they could chew. So yeah, I stand by it, even after waiting 15 minutes to see if my feelings had subsided... nope, not one bit.

New owners? HA! We all know they'd rather run our team into the ground in shambles with their names attached, charging us $35 to sit in the Pavillion, than sell it. Because how can you be hoity-toity carpetbaggers when you have nothing in your name, and even the profession that put your foot through the door (on Bud Selig's happiest day, I'm sure) has gone belly up? And you thought that O'Malley-Rickey divorce was bad...

Aside from all that, Game 5's gonna be a breeze. And no Philly sycophants can do anything to make me feel otherwise, because it HAS to be this year, and if they can't win 3 games, then they didn't deserve it anyways. And they want it. 3-1 is not impossible, just improbable, and probablility has taken a beating from our boys in Blue this year. I'm sure they have more in 'em.

"Nothing can stop me now, I don't care anymore
Nothing can stop me now, I just don't care"
- Nine Inch Nails

I'm not making promises, but I've got a feeling about this team. A feeling that won't be shaken 'til the last breath of the 2009 season.

This got to me maybe Blake should had drop that and got the dp not like it was going to be the infield fly rule.

By getoutofhere on October 20, 2009 2:36 PM

Only three guys in baseball history have hit a walk-off, extra-base hit when their teams were one out away from losing a postseason game.

Player, Team Year Hit
Jimmy Rollins, PHI 2009 2B
Kirk Gibson, LAD 1988 HR
Cookie Lavagetto, BRO 1947 2B

By getoutofhere on October 20, 2009 2:40 PM

Two nasty little columns by Jeff Passan directed at Manny and then Joe:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au3aFQ9pbyE1mC3JQQlfTyMRvLYF?slug=jp-mannyshower102009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AhhuBK6ErHxrFdU6M6a9ticRvLYF?slug=jp-torre102009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

It's now just one game at a time. What do we have to lose - I think everybody but the most staunch Dodger fan has written us off. Everybody should really be loose now. Just go about winning tomorrow's game. I would make a couple of changes, however. O'Dog needs to play. He was such an integral part of the best part of our season. Blake needs to sit, as he has been very ineffective offensively in this series. Much as I hate to say it, let's see if Loretta can find the touch for one game. And above all - don't ever let Sherrill go near the pitching mound again in a Dodger uniform.

NSB - all I can say is "awesome post". Here, here, amen!!!!
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Kahli, I read the article on Joe and laughed all the way through it. He's all about smoke and mirrors, indeed! Some magician - my foot!

Memo to Ned. Toronto has an ace and new GM. Maybe you can both come out on the long end...you know, a trade that helps both sides.

Screw Jeff Passan you just couldn't waited to called him overrated and this one by Manny.

I agree, awesome post, North!!!!

See you all tomorrow - off to class and a very difficult test. Bye for now :)

So if Brox is pitching, and the Phillies need a runner, they pinch hit Stairs? If Broxton is just going to pitch around people and put them on, then yeah, we need a new closer. I cannot believe this will not be addressed by Honeycutt or Torre.

WTF why are you on SHerrill?

Kahli, those articles sure had a lot of anger in them. Now I am just as disappointed as the next fan about how this series is going but I am not angry. Yes, I don't feel good about things but I am not going to get angry and nasty about it! I am going to try to control that because it is just wasted energy. I will be a bit depressed at coming so close if the Dodgers come out on the short end but I am still not going to call up a talk show and scream about it. I know the players are trying hard to win. Sometimes things just don't work out the way you want.

One of the prices we pay as sports fans (and shared by the players as well) is the pain and frustration of losing. We identify with our teams and want them to win because it makes us feel good, almost as if we had played the game ourselves. I know I sometimes feel exhausted after a close and exciting game, especially games I attend in person. The players learn to leave it on the field but many fans find that hard to do. But no matter what, I will be back to support my team the next time out because I am always hopeful that the next game or season will be better than the last or at least as entertaining. Win or lose, the Dodgers have certainly entertained us this season even if they have teased us with that sucess.

We got one his name is Kuo but we know he can't stay healthy.

lbirken......well said as always......North you too as well.

Some real misdirected anger around here. Colletti's done a nice job; it's not his fault that there happens to be a more mature, developed team standing in the Dodgers way right now.

I'd be out of my mind about Manny if he played for my team. I'm certainly glad he doesn't. What a locker room buzz kill.

Well said, lbirken!

By the way, just as we have to learn how to deal with defeat, we have to learn how to win as well. Lose with dignity, win with class. Some people just don't get it.

lol Posada and Cano both ended at 3rd. Napoli got Cano for being off the base and he also tag Posada but only got 1 out. The Angels got robbed big time.

I can't believe these ump in this series are bad. Heck even the Yankees fan agrees both runners should be out.

You know what would be funny. If Torre benched Manny for that crap he pulled last night being in the shower and missed the Philly comeback. Pierre started for the next 2 games and we tied the series 3-3. In game 7, Thome come off the bench to PH probably say for Martin he has done it before on a 3-2 Thome hits a grandslam off of Lidge and we win 5-4.

Northstateblues - wonderful post as always :))

lbirken - We haven't seen you around in a while. It's good to read you and your posts. That was at least worth 10 cents :))

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnppAEoWzab0s13hO3Saii8HU84F?slug=ap-playoffsnotebook&prov=ap&type=lgns

It look like Torre didn't care for Manny going to take a shower.

Can I dream about it right?

Hi Everybody
I just came on to see what Messagebear had to say about Colletti's multi-year extention.
I wish I could've saw his original comment.
When I read about Colletti, Bear was the first one I thought about.
I for one am very pleased.
Colletti made a lot poor acquisitions at first, who doesn't?
But I feel he more than made up for them during the last offseason and recently.
He may not be in the class of Branch Rickey, Fresco Thompson, Busy Bavasi, Al Campanis -just yet- but he's getting there. GO DODGERS!!!!

TBW and I will watch the game from the restaurant tomorrow night, rooting dem Bums on.
And I'll be rooting 'til the fat lady sings, 'til there's nothing left to root for.
At that point, regardless of how it ends, I'll stand up proudly for my team.
GO DODGERS!!!!!!

Hello Gang!! Nice post Kahli!! I echo your sentiments. I was not angry last night. Just very sad and disheartened. As someone posted earlier, anger is just a huge waste of energy!! We're still in it. Let's win this game 5 and take it back to LA!!! Let the chips fall where they may. Regardless of the outcome, I too, will be proud to fly Dodger colors as I have since 1965!!! I am proud of our team. It's been a great season. We got some growin' to do, but we are much better off than back in the Fox/DePodesta days!!! I like our chances tomorrow.

Oldbrooklynfan - It is great you and truebluewill get to see the game together. Have a wonderful time, and like you said, no matter the outcome, we will stand up proudly for our team.

I really can't comment on the Ned extension, as my mother always told me, If you can't say anything good, don't say anything!!! I give him a straight C on his performance so far. All I can say is, that if we didn't have two candidates in our front office that I believe are better equipped for the job, I would probably feel better about it.

lbirken, agree with BOTH your posts. Well done. I had ZERO anger last night. No scapegoats, no blame. Just a lot of sad depression, the horrible specter of a Dodger season coming closer to an end. It's not the fleeting championship I mourn for, but rather, the impending bye-bye to my summer "friends," Vinny included. I've enjoyed myself for 40 years, each and every summer, and it's ALWAYS sad when it ends, whether the calendar reads 1988 or 2009. And let me say one more time what a pleasure it was to spend a few moments with you at the ITD tour in June. All that said.........let's get this thing back to L.A.!!!!! If the Dodgers can do that, the Phils' collars will tighten with each and every at-bat.

Thanks for stopping by Oldbrooklynfan, We will get everyone in the same boat with a win tomorrow..... have fun :-)
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KEEP ON TRUCKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Ng gets the San Diego job!!! I would have taken you over Ned!!!!

Hi'Ya Nelly!!! I'm doing the time warp again!!! LOL!!!

As the lyricist for "Nedsterado" (Why don't you come to your senses ... You've been out signing veterans for too long now ...), I think I'm qualified to say that I think Colletti has done a very good job these last couple of years.
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Getting Manny for essentially Andy LaRoche last year and then signing him for a 2-year-stint this past off-season was excellent work (Nobody knew then that Manny was a juicer); resisting the constant temptation to break up the youngsters; locking down Furcal for three years; picking up Orlando Hudson for a song; adding Thome, Sherrill, Padilla, and Ronnie Belliard while giving up basically Josh Bell and not much more.
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We all know that The Nedster got off to a horrible start as Dodgers GM -- think Jason Schidt -- but I think he has righted the ship since.
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Congratulations, Ned, on a job well done and your new contract!

P.S. If you're reading this JoJo, don't think you're anywhere near out of the doghouse. Anything this team does will be not because of you, but overcoming you.
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I'll give you this much credit -- you finally figured out that Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp are better than Juan Pierre. Of course, 47 of 48 fans polled on this board at the beginning of Spring Training 2008 knew that, so it's hard to give you much credit for figuring it out in a year-and-a-half.

Who's the one out of 48? - LOL!!!! I know, I know, I know...........................honest..........................I am just kidding.

Great posts Kahli and Lny4Loney!!

Hey Jhall!!!! Down here!!! How did you get way up there sir? LOL!!!!!

I gotta say, Ned did go from a total F and failing grade his first season to a C. Perhaps he got some tutoring from Logan White and Kim Ng. I hope in a couple of years, I will be giving him an A!!!!!

Jhall - With Ned, I am not sure how much of it is just Ned being Ned, and how much of it is Frank having Ned's hands tied. Then again, maybe Ned likes it :))))

LOL Nelly!! I truely believe Ned did not get free rein this year and there was alot of input/control from Frank, White, Ng, JoJo, and maybe Jamie!!!

Not a bad thing, as long as they get it right!!! The president has a cabinet!!! Upper managements job is to rely on qualified people to get the job done!!!

LOL lny4!! Totally agreed!! Good points. We dropped the Phew, Slappy, and Juanpy monickers back in July!!!

Hey Nelly, where's Beav/Enchanted? Is he just plain disgusted again?

I surely hope Thome get 1 ab's in Philly because he deserved to get cheer again.

You are right Jhall. It's all about getting the job done, and done well. With Ned, I think about him getting Andre, and that was a big, big plus, but then getting JP, Andruw and Schmidt kind of tips the scales a bit, but now, with what he was able to get this season and for the money he spent...........not too bad.

Wally - I am not sure where he is, and yes, he was just plain disgusted but that was after the 11-0 game. This last game may have sent him into a Koolaid binge for a while. However, honestly, I am assuming most of it is he is busy getting ready to become a California resident once again.

P.P.S If you're reading this Juan Pierre, you've earned the right to be called by your proper name. My problem with you was never so much with your popgun power, low OBP, or noodle arm as it was with the stupid managers who kept playing you over far better players. Of course, your whining did contribute to that.
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But this year you've kept your mouth shut and played pretty good ball. You and I both know that you only played really well for about three weeks -- not the 50 games some ill-informed fans like to believe. But you've been an important piece of this team this year. So thank you.

LOL Nelly, thanks!! I kind of figured he was busy with moving. That's a huge pain and complex task.

Jhall - I have a student who said that she has family in Ohio, and that she had been to a few Reds game. This was the week we did Cincinnati in Geography. Anyhow, I had a parent/teacher conference with her mom today and sure enough, her and her husband's entire family lives in Ohio, mostly in Columbus and Cincinnati, but other parts as well.

Ned, now that you're here to stay, here's my 2¢. Win, lose, or draw this season, deep down, I think we both knew the Dodgers were still a year away. Manny was the priority ticket last winter; no one could foresee the suspension and decline in skills. So I figure you envisioned Joe and Manny back for a swan song in 2010 (when the kids would have come of age) and perhaps an ace could be had. Maybe you never saw the Frank and Jamie blindside coming, either. Only you guys know whether costs were, um, shall we say, "tethered" this season. So 2010, the year we make contact...or something like that. No more pressure on you to perform, no more looking over your shoulder. You got your vote of confidence in the bank. Hell, if the Dodgers get lucky, maybe Donnie Baseball takes that Cleveland job and we can clean house on interlopers starting in 2011. Hell, by then the Dodger dynasty should be in full swing with Ethier, Kemp and Loney anchoring the offense, Kershaw dealing, and new pitching coach Orel Hershiser teaching Billingsley how to approach a game and maybe even teaching Broxton how to throw a stinking change-up.

One game...bring it back to L.A.

Too cool Nelly!! LOL Kahli!!! Good points!! We can only dream of getting Orel as our pitching coach. That would make my day/month/year!!!! I would take him as our manager. If not Orel, Steve Stone or Greg Maddux!!!

Kahli - You are giving some great advice today/tonight. Keep it up.

Jhall - I would think even moreso where Beav is moving. He is moving into the lower mountain area between here and Yosemite. Talk about a climate change, but he has lived up there before so I am sure it will be a welcome change.

Goodnight gang!!! We're going to whip'em tomorrow and take this baby back to LA!!! Excelsior, True Believers!!!!!

Good Night Jhall!!!! All we have is faith and love at this point. Faith that the Dodgers can bring it back to LA and the love we have for them, regardless of the outcome. Take Care and God Bless!!!

Spent yesterday in a severely PO'd mode, but thankfully that began to fade around dark. Time to turn to the job at hand and get this thing back to LA.

MUST WIN TONIGHT!
To our BOYS IN BLUE
Fans will be praying and God will be helping!
The weather will be nice in PHILLY, tonight you must win. The game must go on, it is incomplete.
We still need a HOMERUN by MARTIN
We still need KEMP to do an extraordinary jump catch
We still need more K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K from our pitchers
We still need BROXTON to save another game
We still need MANNY to be MANNY
We still need HUDSON to tumble while catching a ball
We still need FURCAL to make that leap through the air to catch a ball and turn it into a double.
We still need LONEY to do some acrobatic move to catch that ball thrown to first.
We still need BLAKE to show us HE STILL GOT IT!
We still need PIERRE to steal a base.
We still need THOME to come out and bring some boys HOME!
We still need ETHIER to do MORE WALK-OFFS WIN!
AND WE STILL NEED THE NLCS, SO IT IS NOT OVER AND YOU MUST WIN TONIGHT!
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LET'S GO DODGERS

Good Morning ITD, Dodger Faithful and Our Beloved Boy's In Blue.............................
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNB1EUJg1-w
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BRING THIS THING BACK TO L.A. BOY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_PnfITxnhM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UheKmPY1mNw
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LET'S GO DODGERS, LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRING THE RING TO L.A. IN 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Enjoy your day and the game everyone....
LET'S BEAT THE PHILLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bad choices, Dodger4life. The Journey song is an anthem that they've been playing at CBP for the last couple of years, and Jon Bon Jovi is a Phillies phan.

I'm sure MLB buys the rights to several songs and several stadiums use the sames songs. Dodgers use the Journey song and the Bon Jovi song. Bon Jovi is a Philly Phan but hey he doesn't mind other teams using his song....must need the money.

IT'S MY LIFE......................
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SKFwtgUJHs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO38rf1m0FU
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5LduVGA67o
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GO DODGERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you are blissfully unaware that the 'Who Said You Can't Go Home' video was filmed in North Philly on one of Jon's charitable projects for 'Habitat for Humanity'. He's a homeboy.

Good Morning ITDland ~ GO DODGERS!!!!

Gooooood morning ITD! Good morning tru! Good morning D4! Great song selection! Good morning Rose! It's a beautiful day here in SoCal and it's great to be alive!

Go Dodgers!

Good Morning, Dodgereric, Dodger4life and Rose.

Isn't it nice for MLB to be hiring the blind for umpiring in the playoffs? Very progressive.

Jeez, looks like we're up to 23 minutes now. 9:49AM

24!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLu7osRBKo

LOL, Dodgereric. I was thinking the same thing while watching the Angels game last night. It appears MLB has hired the bottom feeders to umpire very important games.

I agree with Scott. It's time to play JP instead of Manny. I'm fed up with "Manny being Manny" - how about Manny being a Dodger?

Those umps are from the East coast

Good morning all!
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Come on, Dodgers!! Don't let Philly celebrate at home tonight with their crummy fans! Bring it back to LA!!
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Can Thome DH for Blake? - just kidding
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Now everyone sit down for this: I say play JP tonight in left and sit Manny for the good of the team. You heard it here first - Scott says PLAY JP!

Just a friendly reminder:

Please Don't Feed the Trolls.

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and remember:

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Thank you.

LMAO!!!!!!

I don't think I'm ready for that yet, scott and bear!

Great advice north! Let's keep scraping the gum off our shoes!

Wait - (snif, snif) - - - - it's not gum.......

Kick em when theyre up, Kick em when theyre down

Kick 'em when they're up, Kick 'em all around

Hi ITD,

Carpe Diem! Especially tonight. My rant: I have not seen so much non-baseball drama generated around the Dodgers, since perhaps Lasorda had to stop managing due his health.
We have McCourt separation, mattingly interview for mangement, Ng interview, Neds contract extension and Manny's shower. Thanks mlb.com for the news we need most. I like what msdodgersrule stated above, include belliard in hitting something sweet, in fact all the Dodgers need to start hitting some baseballs where no one is defending. I hope after tonight's game, there will be more Dodger ball to watch.

I get it, it's "fan" except spelled with a "ph". Hillarious!! Clever!! Ingenious!!

new thread!

Good morning ITD boys and girls!
Can't stay long. Such a tough loss on Monday, but I have NO DOUBT that our beloved BOYS IN BLUE will bounce back tonight! I can't wait to see my boys come back to LA to play on Friday and Saturday!!!

Scott/Bear - I too would rather see JP start in LF instead of Manny...

GO DODGERS!!!
GO VICENTE!!!