Guess which helmet is Manny's

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The Giants will be doing their 50th anniversary celebration at tonight’s game and rumor has it, Barry Bonds will be on hand for, what I imagine will be, the loudest ovation we’ve heard in a long time.

Our season-long celebration of the 50th continues next weekend with the 90s luncheon and for anyone that went to the first three luncheons, these have been very well received. For more information, email fanfeedback@ladodgers.com.

I’ve also noticed a lot of women posting here of late and in case you didn’t know, there’s a WIN event on that same day as the 90s luncheon, August 16. A clinic in the morning and luncheon in the afternoon and among the many Dodgers who will be on hand for one or the other are Joe Torre, Don Mattingly, Jeff Kent, Russell Martin and Matt Kemp. For more information, check this page out.

For those who follow our prospects, check out what Justin Miller did last night for the Loons.

Meanwhile, if you haven’t already heard, you can catch up with Larry Bowa on Tuesday in a web chat at 2 p.m. PT Log in early to get your questions at the top so they’re easier to find.

Finally, a win tonight would tie Joe Torre with Joe McCarthy for seventh place all-time on the Major League wins list. Here’s tonight’s lineup:

Kemp, CF

Ethier, RF

Kent, 2B

Manny, LF

Loney, 1B

Martin, C

Blake, 3B

Berroa, SS

Kuroda, P

484 comments

  1. enchantedbeaver

    Just a random thought… Ardoin joins the long list of players this season that hit a home run the day/night before and find themselves sitting back on the bench the next game.

  2. messagebear@msn.com

    Finally a lineup that I can totally agree with, even including Berroa the way he’s been hitting lately. What’s happening? Torre’s obviously a slow learner to come to this point. I just hope that now that he seems to have learned our ballclub, he’ll stick with this lineup.

    As for Ned, I still say FIRE HIS SORRY A**!!!

  3. think16blu

    enchanted i didn’t even notice! i was so excited about Andre (especially) Matty, and ManRam being the starting OF!

  4. trublu4ever

    I also think this is a great lineup. He should leave it this way for a while and see if we can go on a winning streak with it — would be fun to win more than 2 in a row.

  5. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    i would gush about how good the lineup is.. but i think you all have taken care of that for me.. it is about as good as you can get right now..

  6. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    it’s also funny josh would post that picture just after everyone started talking about just how dirty manram’s helmet is.. i think it wasn’t as noticeable in boston because they wear black helmets, but his logo was always less readable than the others.. but now.. it’s all over the blue.. what can anyone say? the man uses lots of pinetar~

  7. kpookiemon

    JOE!!! Tell that darn Ramirez to clean his helmet!!! I want a very “proper” .500 team representing the City of Angels!

  8. enchantedbeaver

    Now that would be a sad day Tru – I’d lose all my motivation for songwriting.

    Although I’d still have Ned…

  9. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I have two versions of this song in my head. This one is Joe’s version. I am happy with how most of our veterans are playing right now, except for two, and you know who they are. I just want them benched for the rest of the season. They really aren’t needed, and I wish Joe would realize that. Ned and Frank are making enough money off of Manny right now, where Joe should be able to let JP and Andruw be the bench players and not have to worry about the money sitting on the bench. Andre needs to be “Everyday ‘Dre” (IMO, of course) GO DODGERS!!!!
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    Song: Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Joe’s Version)
    Original Song: Wouldn’t It Be Nice
    by: The Beach Boys
    .
    Wouldn’t it be nice if my team was older
    Then I wouldn’t have to play the young
    And wouldn’t it be nice to bench the young guns
    In the kind of world where I belong
    .
    I know it’s gonna make it that much better
    When I can say play Juan intead of Ethier
    .
    Wouldn’t it be nice if I could wake up
    In the morning when the day is new
    And after playing all the vets together
    Hold back the young guns the whole night through
    .
    Happy times together I’ve been spending
    I wish that every vet was always playing
    Wouldn’t it be nice
    .
    Maybe if I think and wish and hope and play i
    It might come true
    Then there wouldn’t be a single thing I couldn’t do
    I could play slappy
    And then I’d be happy
    .
    Wouldn’t it be nice
    .
    You know it seems the more I talk about it
    It only makes it worse to play without them
    But let’s talk about it
    Wouldn’t it be nice

  10. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Great Lineup, BTW – I am very happy to see that outfield. I just wish it could stay that way – please Joe!!!

  11. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Thank you, enchanted ~ let’s hope Joe doesn’t get his wish and we lose a very valueable part of our outfield. That would be a very sad day, indeed, especially if it means 3 more years with JP.

  12. lbirken@aol.com

    I don’t see Manny’s helmut in the picture. The one I saw Manny wearing on TV completely obliterated the “LA” logo. Also, I see some numbers on these helmuts that belong to players not currently on the active roster, such as #3 & #33.

  13. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    lbirken, i bet that picture was taken at home before the road trip because they wouldn’t take all those helmets on the road, ie #5, #33.. so basically that’s the mess it was after 3 games, and now it’s in even worse condition.. which you saw last night..

  14. aeversw

    It’s nice to have a lineup without THE BLACK HOLE at the top of the order. We keep playing this lineup everyday and we’ll win the west.h

  15. tradejuanpypaperbag

    speaking of helmets – has anyone heard about DY, our sixth outfielder? I am assuming he is just being hidden away, and maybe never to be seen again.

  16. trublu4ever

    Max – I agree with you about leaving the line-up this way. We can pass the Dbacks and let them chase us for a while!

  17. kpookiemon

    With Nomar due back and DY probably close to filing a “what’s up?” grievance against Ned and Joe, the Dodgers will have to move two human beings. My guess is one pitcher (Troncoso or Johnson) and one extrememly underachieving left-handed pinch hitter.

  18. trublu4ever

    You are probably right about the two players who would go. Andruw would have to stay because he’s trying to set the record for a seasons all time low batting average, which was held by Bob Ueker (not sure of the spelling) but Jones is a close second.

  19. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Kahli ~ our school just got over the 800 mark in the API scores, so yes, she would definitely be over .500 by now. We have a really good mix of young and veteran teachers, and all of our veteran teachers are proven veteran teachers.

  20. enchantedbeaver

    Did I see in one of the articles on the home page that Bennett is actually trying to get back for September? Being as how he’s on the 60-Day DL and not taking a 40 man roster spot, what poor sap would have to be DFA’d for that to happen?

  21. trublu4ever

    wow, enchanted, I didn’t see that item about Bennett. This is going to get very wierd, with Noamar, Furcal and now maybe Bennett coming back — a little crowded, wouldn’t you say.

  22. lbirken@aol.com

    Don’t think Bennet will be back on this team any time soon. Got to go; enjoy the game and let’s take it to the Gnats.

  23. lbirken@aol.com

    Of course, after September 1 there is no problem. Still, I can’t imagine the Dodgers would want Bennet back.

  24. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I think a few pianos are going to have to fall for that to happen. I think a piano or two are going to have to fall to make room for Nomar and DY, too. I guess Berroa or Ozuna are expendable for Nomar, but then there’s DY and now Bennett – Wow!!! decisions, decisions, and who do we have in charge – Ned and Joe – what fun that will be.

  25. enchantedbeaver

    I’m guessing DY will magically heal when the rosters expand in Sept. Being on the 15-Day, he’s already on the 40 man as is Nomar. If Berroa can keep it up a little while longer, I wouldn’t expect Nomar to play again until Sept. either.

  26. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Hey, jhall ~ there’s a little league team playing to go to the LLWS – are they from around you? Also, Grady 0-5 today, glad to see he’s human, too – LOL!!

  27. swood@rcn.com

    I really like Kent hitting in front of Manny. Two RBI machines back to back. Torre is finally starting to figure out the lineup…hopefully not too late though.

  28. jhallwally

    I don’t know Nelly, I’ll have to check on the LL team. Peralta still getting you points. LOL!!!
    Sure would like to see Andre splash one tonight.

  29. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I hope so too, jhall, I hope so too. He’s got jnv and dodge16 there cheering him on, so hopefully they will bring him some much deserved good wishes.

  30. boblee14@yahoo.com

    We’re going to win tonight. I can feel it. This teams starting a push for the west division crown and we’re going to leave the D’backs in the dust.
    .
    Go COWBOYS

  31. tradejuanpypaperbag

    That’s great!! They said about 90 miles from Cleveland, but you are actually in Columbus, right?
    .
    That’s good news, enchanted!!
    .
    Boblee – Go Redskins!!!! They are playing pretty well right now ~ Jason’s looking pretty good out there!! LOL!!!

  32. oldbrooklynfan

    Things are getting interesting and I think we have a team that thinks a lot of itself.
    Here’s hoping Kuroda can give us one of his better games.
    With the addition of Blake & Manny I feel we have changed the dynamics of this team.
    The possibilities are unlimited.
    If HAPPY DAYS aren’t back yet, then they’re not far off.
    GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!………………………YA BUMS.

  33. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Good evening,PierreEW!!!
    This lineup is looking pretty good. There isn’t anything to complain about tonight, yet anyway – lol!!

  34. kpookiemon

    boblee and dnelly, I’ve been a Dallas fan since they lost the Ice Bowl in ’67. As a kid, I liked their uniforms! Hey, where did joey, the vampire bat, go????????

  35. oldbrooklynfan

    As soon as DY is ready the Dodgers should turn him loose and if he’s not picked up by another team sent him back to Las Vegas. I think they can do that as long as nobody else makes a move.
    If he’s claimed by another team, all well and good since there is no room in our outfield.
    .
    .
    Unless they want him to replace Ozuna or Berroa.
    JUST MY THOUGHTS.

  36. vl4ecc

    Even though I live in Texas, and not a native s**tkicker. My two favorite NFL teams are the Raiders, and whoever plays the Dallas Cowgirls that day. I realize they’ve been on hard times the past few years. They are still my team. I’m not a ‘fair weather’ fan. I go back to when I was a kid watching the ‘Mad Bomber’ Lamonica at QB for the Silver & Black. I’m hoping McFadden has a big breakout year, and Russell comes into his own. Where I grew up, everyone else was a Dallas fan. It drove me crazy when football season rolled around each year.

    Back to the lineup. I like it alot! Hope it works well, and stays this way for a while. GO DODGERS!!!

  37. enchantedbeaver

    No need to bring DY off the disabled list until Sept. when the rosters expand. That way you don’t lose him. My guess is unless they trade him over the winter, they keep him around as insurance until they see what becomes of Manny and JP.

  38. oldbrooklynfan

    DY can hit, that we all know, his fielding has a lot more to be disired although at times he can be suprizing.
    He can play the infield but I don’t recall him at SS.

  39. tradejuanpypaperbag

    jjriley ~ so that means twice a year you are a Redskins fan – good!! I’m not a Raiders fan, but don’t dislike them like I do the Giants. My daughter is a Raiders fan.

  40. tradejuanpypaperbag

    jjriley – Giants baseball, not football. I actually like the Giants football team – I wanted them to win the superbowl when it was down to just the two teams.

  41. oldbrooklynfan

    I’m feeling a lot better my appetite and body functions have been normal and me and my very close buddy VAC should have no trouble getting through this game tonight.
    COME ON DODGERS………YOU’RE IN THE PENNANT FIGHT.

  42. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I am very proud of all Dodger Fans at the game. I didn’t hear any boos when Barry was annouced – Dodger fans are awesome!!!!

  43. vl4ecc

    dnelly I’m a true blue Dodger fan. I despise the baseball Giants. It’s in my DNA from my Dads side. He grew up in the Bronx, where everyone else in his youth were Yankee fans. He was always a Dodger fan, and passed his fanaticism on to me. I was ecstatic when the Football Giants beat the heavily favored Patriots in the last Super Bowl. I haven’t forgiven the Patriots for the fumble called an incomplete pass in the AFC championship game some years back. They are a bunch of over rated cheaters.
    And I will NEVER forget, or forgive the Steelers ‘Immaculate Reception’ going waaay back! LMAO!

  44. trublu4ever

    Swood – They just finished doing the reunion of all the Giant oulfielders — including Mays & Bonds — game next.

  45. aeversw

    What is wrong with KCAL? I have always hated watching Dodger games on it. The channel is either blacked out of the picture keeps flickering off and on.

  46. oldbrooklynfan

    I don’t know how everyone else feels about it but it was nice to see Barry Bonds(not in uniform) mention that the Dodger are right here. He said he beat us before and will beat us again.
    .
    Personally I hope it’s NOT as a Giant.

  47. obi_wen

    Great songs Kahli and DNelly! Okay love the line-up tonight. So in tribute to Juan Pierre and his coming diatribe of complaint in tomorrow’s papers, I present to you, the ITD crew, a song on Juan, as sung from Juan, to Juan. 🙂

    “JUAN ON JUAN” [aka “ONE ON ONE” – Hall & Oates]

    I’m tired of playing on this team

    It seems that I don’t get to start anymore

    That could change if my OBP was erased

    And you forget I rarely score

    Oh oh I can feel the magic of Juan’s touch

    And when Juan pops to left a little bit means so much

    Ooh yeah, you’ve got to understand Torre

    Being Juan is what I’m here for

    Juan on Juan I wanna play this game tonight

    Juan on Juan I know I wanna play that

    Juan on Juan I wanna play this game tonight

    Dre and Druw are so slow

    You can’t tell me you don’t miss me Joe

    I think I might know you too well

    Wonder what Mom would say if she knew that I wasn’t starting tonight

    [Want to? ] I want to start can’t you tell?

    Juan on Juan I wanna play the game tonight

    Juan on Juan I know I wanna play this

    Juan on Juan I wanna play the game tonight

    Dre and Druw are so slow

    That’s all you need to know now

    ‘Cause if my Mom’s really right there’s no Juan else

    One on one I want to play that game tonight…

    Juan on Juan I wanna play the game tonight

    Juan on Juan I know I wanna play this

    Juan on Juan I wanna play the game tonight

  48. tradejuanpypaperbag

    jjriley ~ The Giants issue – same here – it’s in the DNA to bleed Dodger Blue
    .
    PierreEW – the Giants don’t want anything to do with Barry, and if they do, they are not letting anybody know about it. They have pretty much eliminated all things that relate to Barry except for one plack at AT&T park. So, he’s not coming back as a Giant any time soon.

  49. perumike

    Hi all, back from a few days up in northern California, where it was absolutely beautiful. I was at Lake Sabrina, at about 9000 feet, near Bishop, CA. Glad to see our boys have won their last two, and that they are right on the heels of the Snakes. Go Blue!

  50. tradejuanpypaperbag

    perumike ~ It’s great to hear you had a good time up there in the Sierra’s. Glad you are back!!
    .
    GO DODGERS!!!

  51. vl4ecc

    Even though I despise the Giants, I have the utmost admiration, and respect for Willie Mays. He’s the best all around player I’ve ever seen. He did it cleanly, and with class. Bonds could raise a pimple on his Godfathers behind.

  52. bluecrewgirl

    Hey everyone. I was happy to see Andre in the lineup tonight. I missed the first 2 innings, but from what Vin said when he came up to bat in the top of the third, he could easily be 2 for 2. I would say he has a good chance to start again tomorrow since he hits Cain very well. I know Torre said that Pierre’s recent comments have not affected his decisions on who starts, but it sure seems like it has since Pierre has only started like one game since then. May it stay that way. lol.

  53. tradejuanpypaperbag

    bluecrewgirl – he did very well the first at bat, too. It was just a good play by the second baseman.
    .
    obi ~ orlando hudson looks to be out for a while. He went out of the game, with looked like to be a broken wrist/hand. It was a missed play by the dbacks, that’s the reason for the score.

  54. obi_wen

    Dnelly: Truly sorry to hear the bad news about the O-Dog. I like him as a player, and I never want to see anyone get seriously hurt. Aren’t you proud of Dre’s performance so far tonight, Dnelly? He easily could be 3 for 3!

  55. magicofthesoul13@aol.com

    orlando alwayls gets hurt in the final weeks last year he go hurt and i beleive he didnt play in the playoffs

  56. bluecrewgirl

    Yes, Andre!! Way to show Joe who should be starting. Too bad we can’t play the Giants in their park even more than we do being in the same division.

  57. aeversw

    NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!NO MORE SLAPPY!!!

  58. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Obi ~ Andre’s doing great, and yes, I like Orlando, too, that’s why I said what happened. As individuals I like many of the dbacks players. I just wish they weren’t our competition. I have many of them on my fantasy team.

  59. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    why is the color of beimel’s facial hair on his bobblehead SO much lighter than his hair color? that commercial still cracks me up though..

  60. bluecrewgirl

    I love the commercial for Beimel’s bobblehead with Beimel, Russ, Andre and Loney. They just showed it again.

  61. bluecrewgirl

    I was wondering why he went too, Acardona, considering he’s the slowest runner on the team and we would have still had a chance to cash a run in with only 2 outs.

  62. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    wow, that was a dead-on throw~
    and of course russ did a great job blocking the plate as always..

  63. tradejuanpypaperbag

    That’s exactly why Juan Pierre does not need to be out in the outfield. NICE JOB MATTHEW!!!! Are you watching Joe?

  64. bluecrewgirl

    That was a great play, Sara. That’s another reason I like Andre and Matt both in the lineup. Good defense can be just as important and exciting as good offense.

  65. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    yeah dnelly, if pierre was playing in CF today, that out just now never could have happened. i love andre and matty’s outfield assists too much, which is another reason i don’t like pierre playing..

  66. swood@rcn.com

    Torre was trying to stay out of the ground ball double play on the three two count by sending the runner and hoping Manny would either make contact or walk.

  67. think16blu

    Dnel- haha! he must be shinning his shoes during the game cause he seems to think JP and Andruw are great!!

  68. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    maybe obi, or at least kent thought it was a hit and run. no way that manram checks his swing on a hit and run. if it was a hit and run, he didn’t do much of a job to make contact.

  69. tradejuanpypaperbag

    sara ~ this is the reason why Andre and Matt (and even Andruw on occasion) need to be playing everyday. It’s things like that in close games that are going to make the difference rather than a possible stolen base by JP.

  70. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    yup bluecrewgirl, exciting defense is SO fantastic. i love great defensive players.. it’s a very important part of the game..

  71. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    i know dnelly, JP supporters and joe just don’t seem to grasp that concept. a great defensive play can change the game just as much as a stolen base, if not more.

  72. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    sheesh~ joe is just running EVERYONE today.. almost another strike ’em out, throw ’em out

  73. obi_wen

    “Juan Pierre could have made that kind of throw, if Juan Pierre was given the chance tostart tonight and play in Centerfield”—-thought bubble that momentarily appeared over the head of Juan Pierre. [Thought Bubble is a registered trademark of Juan Pierre Enterprises, KCAL-TV and the Los Angeles Dodgers, and is available only to subscribers of the “Juan being Juan” fanclub. Available only in the contiguous United States. Outlawed in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela]

  74. swood@rcn.com

    Nice slide by Loney. I don’t like how Torre always trys to stay out of the ground ball double play on full counts by sending the runner and hoping the hitter makes contact. I always feel theres a better chance of a strike him out throw him out DP than a Ground Ball DP.

  75. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    yeah swood, agreed. especially with loney and kent. two of our slowest runners..

  76. bluecrewgirl

    LMAO, obi. At first I thought you were saying you thought he could have made that throw, then realized you were joking. Too funny.

  77. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    wow, i never thought berroa would get two IBBs in the same season..

    didn’t they see kuroda drive in the only run of the game!! haha

  78. think16blu

    those were quite possibly the two worst hit and run calls made back to back! but at least SOMETHING came out of it!! (something= a bad throw)

  79. oldbrooklynfan

    Correia seemed somewhat wild but Dodgers couldn’t seem to make much contact on pitches near the strike zone.
    It looked like to me.

  80. obi_wen

    “I would have been safe on that play because no umpire is going to call Juan Pierre, a player who has stolen over 100 bases for three different teams, out on a play like that- it just ain’t gonna happen” – 7: 57pm “Thought Bubble” of Juan Pierre

  81. think16blu

    Dnel- i read earlier that you said your family is Gnats fans.. my dad was telling me after i got Andre’s autograph that my grandma used to take him to Giant games (he lived in antioch) and he waited for hours at a game when he was young to get a picture with Mays and he did but he lost the picture..

  82. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Great story acardona 🙂
    .
    obi ~ keep it up!! They are great!!
    .
    Giants bullpen – Let’s Go Dodgers!!!

  83. bluecrewgirl

    That was close to at least a double for Andre. Bummer. He’s hit the ball well every time tonight.

  84. obi_wen

    “Manny wears number 99 because he wishes he was twice as good as Juan Pierre!” -8: 21pm “Thought Bubble” of Juan Pierre [now outlawed in Oklahoma and Arizona]

  85. tradejuanpypaperbag

    The Giants announcers said the Ethier is a scary hitter. That he looks like he plays here everyday. Good compliment, but scary thought of him playing in a Giants uniform.

  86. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I think Omar forgot that it wasn’t Pierre out there again. That’s twice now that they have tried to throw on Matt’s arm. Joe, are you watching?

  87. enchantedbeaver

    What is going on tonight? This line-up should be killing SF. It always seems this is what happens when Joe finally gets a good line-up in there – they don’t score, which leads him to believe they have to have JP in there to make things go.

    Good bit on the thought bubble Obi!! Good song too!!!

  88. obi_wen

    “Better start flapping my right arm so Joe will know that Juan Pierre is ready to go into the game and make things HAPPEN!” – 8:35pm “Thought Bubble” of Juan Pierre

  89. enchantedbeaver

    Ned’s thought bubble 24/7 – ?????????????????
    ???????????????????????????????????????????
    ???????????????????????????????????????????

  90. oldbrooklynfan

    Its a good thing the Giants aren’t this good against the rest of the league because they’d be much higher in the standings.
    I guess they’re more relaxed against us.
    Its been like this for many years.

  91. tradejuanpypaperbag

    LMAO!! obi and enchanted 🙂
    .
    acardona – it’s bad enough I think about him being traded, but the thought of him playing for “that” team would just be crushing.

  92. think16blu

    i missed the first out of the inning… i’m watching the UFC fights, posting on here, putting away my camping stuff, and watching the game!! talk about multi-tasking! lol

  93. obi_wen

    “Juan Pierre’s speed would have let him caught that ball” – 8:40pm Jean Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  94. aeversw

    Imagine how differently this game would have played out if Slappy was in center tonight. It’s safe to say we’d be losing.

  95. obi_wen

    “I hate it when Jean Pierre try to take over my mind, she’s so flaky” – 8:41 pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  96. boblee14@yahoo.com

    Kuroda’s in trouble. We should be hitting the cover off tonight. Russ not hitting. Loney not himself. What gives?

  97. boblee14@yahoo.com

    We just don’t seem to want first place. D’backs keep giving us the opportunity and we say, no thanks.

  98. obi_wen

    “Wow, the Giants are really sticking it to me by hitting all the balls to Kemp and making him look like he has a great arm, by running slow! It’s not fair! ” – 8: 46pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  99. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I hope your watching Matt out there Joe. JP can’t throw like that, and Matt has saved us 2-3 runs tonight. Are you watching Joe?

  100. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Whew!! very stressful here you know 🙂 Come on Dodgers – get some runs for us, please!!!

  101. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    when andre or matty have a rough night with the bat, they can still contribute on defense, like matty is tonight.. but when juan has a rough night at the plate.. there’s no making up for that

  102. oldbrooklynfan

    I said it before and I’ll say it again.
    The Dodgers are a hard team to pitch for.
    K U R O D A can’t possibly pitch much better.
    This is a Gem win or lose.

  103. aeversw

    Matt Kemp guns out two guys tonight and saves another run by not even throwing the ball and Juan Pierre hits a crappy little ground out to short. Not to mention Ethier has been raking. What a great night! More nights like this and we will hopefully rid ourselves of Slappy.

  104. obi_wen

    ” Can I go in as a defensive replacement for Dre, Joe? Please? Please!!- 9:05pmJuan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  105. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    it certainly looked like it hit the chalk.. BUT the ump was right~ there.. so he definitely had a good view to make the determination

  106. tradejuanpypaperbag

    bluecrewgirl – I really hope Joe saw what everyone else saw tonight with Andre’s at-bats. All of them were excellent, whether out or not. Even the Giants announcers are praising him, and that’s not normal for them to do that over and over again.

  107. obi_wen

    “I bet Joe’s been listening to those people on ITD again, and that’s why Juan Pierre is not in the game. I know it, in fact, Josh is against Juan Pierre too because Juan Pierre’s batting helmet slot was EMPTY!!! I would go to the clubhouse and call Mom about it but Matt Kemp might put a Prince Fielder beatdown on Juan Pierre. Juan Pierre no like Pain” – 9:07pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  108. think16blu

    everyone seems to see it Dnelly… everyone but joe! i don’t care if he was forced out that was what a 13 pitch AB!? crazy!

  109. bluecrewgirl

    Yeah, Kent!!! He was overdue for one. DNelly, one can only hope Torre notices how well Andre has stroked the ball tonight. After all, he is a big fan of quality at bats, right?

  110. seeskybout2rain@comcast.net

    On the Giant’s 50th anniversary celebration, how appropriate was that homer? Way to go, Jeff!!

  111. obi_wen

    ” Hmmm… well it’s a 1 PM game tomorrow, so I think try and get here by 6AM for a workout and batting practice. Of course, if Fatty gets a hit then I’ll just sleep here in the clubhouse tonight. -9:21pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  112. boblee14@yahoo.com

    He nelly, I take back what I said about Jones. He looks no better that he did before. Cowboys losing, Oh that’s right, is preseason HAhaha…

  113. obi_wen

    “I got to remind mom to ask Ned to ask Willie Mays, not to call Juan Pierre “Charlie Brown Head” in front of the Barry Bonds –9:29pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  114. obi_wen

    “Could Dave Roberts be trying to be more like Juan Pierre than even Juan Pierre? Oh my god, now my head hurts.. And why is Willie Mays staring at me?” -9:30pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  115. obi_wen

    “Joe got 99 problems and Juan Pierre ain’t one, if you’re having defensive problems I feel bad for you Joe, you got 99 problems but Juan Pierre ain’t one…-9:34pm Juan Pierre Thought Bubble

  116. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Boblee – LOL!! I, too, don’t buy much into preseason. We’ll see, we’ll see 🙂 and yes, andruw being andruw

  117. obi_wen

    “Juan says,’ I’m sick of Broxio, he pitches like a rag doll'” 9:39pm Juan Pierre “Thought Bubble”

  118. tradejuanpypaperbag

    This wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t for the few missed scoring opportunites with runners on 3rd base earlier in the game. Joe/Bowa were making horrible decisions in base running earlier.

  119. swood@rcn.com

    Why not try Kuo closing? He has been so spectacular this year and every chance Brox has been given has either been barely saved or been a disaster.

  120. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    swood, i think you’re exaggerating because you’re angry right now. brox has not been nearly that bad.. and this is his first blown save since he took over for saito

  121. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    that’s what i’m wondering max.. it would seem that they could have at least attempted to get a DP

  122. obi_wen

    You nailed it Dnelly…bad mistakes by Joe and Company. Now the sad thing is he’ll change this line-up tomorrow thinking it was the players and not the poor choice of decision made by him and his staff.

  123. think16blu

    wow… we practically had first place handed to us tonight and couldn’t deliver… pretty disappointing to say the absolute least

  124. boblee14@yahoo.com

    What a pathetic way we find to lose a game. Our best line-up and we didn’t do Crap. Philadelphia will grind us up.

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    Good by first place . We never knew ya.

  125. swood@rcn.com

    I know I am exaggerating and I’m sorry because I am furious right now. I also know this is his first blown save but the ones he has converted have been shaky at best.

  126. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    but you just compared one of our best relief pitchers to our worst position players. that’s ridiculous..

  127. vl4ecc

    I guess it just wasn’t Broxton’s night. Can’t save them all. He has done pretty good since Saito went on the DL, but I think Saito would have done better. Brox is a good setup man, but not the stopper this club needs now. Get well soon Saito-san!

  128. think16blu

    i agree dnelly- GREAT line-up!! bad managing!!

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    obi- yup a beautiful line-up is gunna be thrown down the drain cause joe wont realize how bad his choices were tonight!! running jeff kent!? my little nephew could have done better! lol

  129. tradejuanpypaperbag

    obi ~ this was his best lineup. Everything was working but the base running, and twice that was screwed up.

  130. oldbrooklynfan

    I felt that the game was over after Robert’s lead off double.
    Broxton has been getting by lately but I guess sooner or later he was due to blow one.
    I was hoping his luck would hold out.
    The good news is we don’t lose grown on the D’Backs.
    Over all this was a typical Dodger Giant game which makes this the gratest rivalry of all time.
    The standings never matter between these two teams.
    LET’S GET THEM TOMORROW”””””
    NEED TO GET THE BATS GOING!!!!!!!!!

  131. edwcarter

    This may be an unpopular opinion here…but I think Broxton sucks in the closing role. I’ve seen him blow way too many games this season. This game reminded me of the cold game in Chicago he blew. I don’t like him as a closer.

  132. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Then again, obi, if it weren’t for Matt’s defense tonight instead of JP’s, we would have never been in the game to begin with. He may have not got his hits tonight, but he sure was on fire defensively.

  133. kpookiemon

    max, my same thought…WHY WAS THE INFIELD IN? Right-handed batter, average speed. Oh well, Broxton can claim all he want that the 8th inning is no different from the 9th, but he seems to get the yips in that final inning that’s just like the 8th?!?!?!?!

  134. vl4ecc

    I have a funny feeling that we won’t be seeing this lineup again for a long while. Joe won’t give it a chance to work.

  135. bluecrewgirl

    I like Brox a lot, but I like him better as the set up man too. Too bad Wade doesn’t throw a little harder because I think he’s got the closer’s mentality.

  136. jrscll@hotmail.com

    Why is Torre playing the infield in with 1 out and bases full? Why not play the infield for a DP? That was a terrible call on his end. Broxton blew it yes, but we could have gone 2-2 and into extra innings where I think we had the advantage with the line up. BAD CALL TORRE! Infield in? I manage little league and softball better than he does!

  137. juniorvarsity

    anyboby notice how bad manny played defense out in left?? prolly not, but he let TWO flyballs fall right in front of him, including one in that last inning. ive said this before and ill say it again. manny is not the answer and we will not win with him…i hope he goes to new york next year. he doesnt play dodger baseball…THE DODGER WAY..and we wont win unless we go back to that. its been 20 YEARS!! and we have had sooo many big hitters on our teams piazza, karros, shef, green, beltre, kent, drew, strawberry, eric davis, eddie murray…and we havent won anything with any of them. not to metion all the big name pitchers we have had. some one a couple posts up said that we cant buy first place??? no we cant, and we have been trying for 20 YEARS!!

    dont worry tho…only 1 1/2 more months of this publicity stunt

  138. think16blu

    alright everyone i’m out of here… its always a pleasure chatting with you all! GREAT JOB MATTY!!! GREAT JOB ANDRE!!! LETS PUT THIS LOSS BEHIND US AND GET THE WIN TOMORROW!!! GO DODGERS!!!!!!

  139. kpookiemon

    As long as we’re throwing Broxton to the wolves, he seems to lack the composure of a closer, that icy steely focus–at least for now. Hitting a guy 0-2 and throwing the ball away on a play at the plate speaks of jitters. Sorry, Jonathon, but you either believe you’re a closer or you don’t.

  140. obi_wen

    Yes, Matt was on point defensively tonight, almost had 3 OF assists. That’s why I think Kemp and Ethier should play 99% of the games in the OF, even if they don’t get a hit, their defensive skills help keep you in the game.

  141. dodge1612

    ok so I left right after kents homerun because I knew this stupid crap would happen… typical… I saw that az lost and knew somehow we would lose… I was right, this is on torre. infield in? play for a double play your stupid idiot.

  142. seeskybout2rain@comcast.net

    We’re the Not Ready For Prime Time Players right now but we will get there. A bad call at a crucial moment plus bad management decisions, poor pitching by Broxton, and poor hitting with RISP. In other words, a team loss.

  143. vl4ecc

    Brox could eventually learn to be a better stopper. He’s just not there right now. Some teams just seem to have his fastball, and slider movement dialed in. (See the Cubs & Astros) I think he relies too much on his fastball. If he could develop a good changeup to go along with his fastball, and slider, he would be much more effective in the closing role. He needs to work on another pitch.

  144. kpookiemon

    I’ll take Manny Ramirez every day and twice on Sunday. I don’t feel he could have caught either of those hits to left field tonight. Hate Manny if you want, but he played those balls to the best of his ability.

  145. trublu4ever

    Now that I’m done crying over a terrible loss — I can honestly say that more than ever, JP and Jones are totally useless to this team. The line-up should be kept the same, because for the most part, it works. Matt & Andre should be in the outfield everyday — I don’t care if it’s a righty or leftty pitching — they can adjust. Kent always plays righty or lefty.
    We did have chances to win this game, but Broxton blew this one — it’s his job to SAVE the game!

  146. tradejuanpypaperbag

    joey_rock – This is some people’s fear, especially when you have Manny and JP both out there. Your defense if really weakened.

  147. bluecrewgirl

    Agree TrueBlue44, the lineup tonight is the one we should go with and Andre and Matt should be the every day starters.

  148. obi_wen

    LOL— if it means that JP will sit on the bench and Dre will start I will happily relate his thoughts to the ITD

  149. trublu4ever

    I forgot to mention the ball Andre hit that was ruled foul — big turning point in the game — we could have blown it wide open and maybe not make it so tough on Broxton.

  150. tradejuanpypaperbag

    obi – it’s getting Joe to buy into the fact that Andre and Matt need to be out there because right now he thinks JP’s speed is more important than defense. BTW – you were hilarious tonight!!!

  151. obi_wen

    Believe me, Manny in LF vs JP in LF is the lesser of the two defensive evils. Juan was not going to get to those balls, nor was he going to be deterrent to anyone trying to take a base.

  152. juniorvarsity

    yea everyone will take manny cuz of his stats..all you have to do is look down the free way and see a REAL TEAM with REAL BALLPLAYERS. torii hunter, anderson, now tex, even vlad plays the game right. and all those keys ballplayers with a lot LESS talent than the DODGER YOUNG GUYS…but they play better. not manny tho. and mike is down there managing the DODGER WAY. and those guys are buying in.
    did any of you see juan rivera take a base off of a rod and jeter?? they were talking and rivera was heads up and took the base. they are ahead buy more than 10 games in the middle of august and they still have guys over there keepin their heads in the game and taking every little thing they can….that used to be our way. will it ever be again?

  153. dodge1612

    dre got screwed even the giants fans knew it was fair… that stupid ump was ridiculous… oh well I get to hang out with him tomorrow

  154. seeskybout2rain@comcast.net

    I’m not sure Manny’s balls could have been caught anyway but, by the same token, nobody’s ever accused him of being any more than an average defender, either. You take the great with the not so good.

  155. trublu4ever

    dnelly — I think Joe’s beginning to see that our two guys belong in the outfield — Andre had 12 pitch at bat — which should have resulted in a hit — and JP speed means nothing if he can’t get on base — lol

  156. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Somebody’s been on Dodger lyrics today that means Dodgereric is back somewhere – 🙂 Wally and Beav – your father should be coming home shortly – lol!!

  157. tradejuanpypaperbag

    dodge16 ~ Andre had a fabulous night. Even his outs were wonderful at-bats!!
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    trublue44 ~ Let’s hope so 🙂

  158. obi_wen

    Thanks dnelly, just trying to make folks laugh. Really wish we had won the game. Btw, I think JP Enterprises just tried to serve me with a “cease and desist” order, but the delivery guy couldn’t throw the envelope over my fence. 🙂

  159. tradejuanpypaperbag

    dodge16 – even Kruk thought that ball was fair, and they had wonderful things to say about Andre all night. He even said he was a scary hitter because he bats like he plays in this park everyday. It brought chills down my back thinking of Andre wearing orange and black – yikes!!!

  160. oldbrooklynfan

    I leave you all with this.
    We got the pitching but our hitters have to score more runs, it’s going to be hard on our pitchers if the offense don’t give them enough runs for breathing room.
    COM’ON HIT THAT BALL…………WHERE THEY AIN’T

  161. trublu4ever

    Even the Giant announcers love Andre, they way he approaches every at bat. They were very impressed — said he just loves to play at AT & T Park

  162. kssssss

    OK…I hate to play manager, but before Broxton came in to pitch the 10th, I said I would have left in Kuo….He’s our most consistent pitcher in the bullpen and the Giants had several left handers, including Roberts who was hitting the ball well tonight….For some reason Broxton has not been as good as he has been in the past, even though he has 7 saves….He was much better during the year last year, and not so good at the end if I remember correctly…..He used to be unhittable, but now he just isn’t….Kuo can set em down in a hurry…..Anybody have any thoughts about this?
    Disappointing loss because we could have been in 1st place…We just can’t seem to win 3 in a row…..We have such a difficult homestand coming up, I thought a sweep was pretty necessary here in SF…..oh well,….and what has happened to Martin?…poor guy isn’t hitting lately….we need to get him started….What can you say about Kemp in center…without him we would have lost this game alot earlier….Andrew or Pierre would never have made those 2 great throws that Kemp did…Manny, Matty, and Andre should be our outfield…PERIOD!!!!!

  163. trublu4ever

    Sorry to repeat what you said about the Giant crew loving Andre, dnelly. I didn’t see it. But I picked up on it too.

  164. tradejuanpypaperbag

    drpdedblnd ~ I think 99.9% of us feel the same way about who should be manning the outfield.
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    obi – not sure where Amy is 🙂

  165. trublu4ever

    drpdedblnd — I totally agree with your take on the game. Maybe we should apply for the manager’s job! All it takes is a little common sense.

  166. tradejuanpypaperbag

    trublue44 ~ we think alike – lol!!! Did you see Phelps break the World Record today for his first race – Wow!!! That’s his hardest one, too.

  167. kpookiemon

    joey, you’re talking about the team with the best record in baseball. If you’re down on Manny, so be it. Free country. But if you want this team to play the game “right,” that starts in Spring Training…not after a trade dealine deal for a Hall of Famer. Now if you want to knock Joe, hey, I’ll play!

  168. trublu4ever

    dnelly, Yes I saw Phelps win — he’s on his way to 8 medals. Dara Torres got a silver — pretty good for a 40 year old and she has been added to the relay team.

  169. trublu4ever

    By the way, the Angels may have the best record in baseball and everyone thinks they are the best team. But, something always happens to them when the playoffs come around. They a total no-show, especially Guerrero. Can’t seem to stand the spotlight.

  170. kssssss

    Trublue

    I have been wanting to write McCourt for 2 years…Seriously I could have done a much better job than Coletti the last 2 years without wasting so much of McCourt’s $$$$$$……The mistakes that Coletti has made I knew would be mistakes before he signed the guys that he did……I would NEVER have signed Andrew, Schmidt, traded for Proctor, acquired Sweeney, and so many others that I can’t think of now…Imagine if Coletti had signed Torii Hunter, which is what I would have done…( this is before Andrew was signed)….Torii even said he was willing to come to the Dodgers, but the Angels were quicker to get him signed….To me, the signing of Andrew Jones, last year’s signing of Schmidt, Proctor, and probably Pierre, have doomed this team to more mediocrity….I love Manny and Casey, and at least we have a little buzz around the team, but any team that wants to go to the playoffs, that can’t win 3 games in a row, isn’t very good…I hope things work out well, but I’m not too encouraged even if somehow we find a way to win the division…which still seems difficult to do…..oh..not to mention the guys Coletti has given away….like Marlon Anderson and Cody Ross among others…wouldn’t you rather have these guys on the bench, than the ones we do have???….And I’m not sold on Torre either…..If TruBlue and I knew that we should have left in Kuo, why didn’t Joe????

  171. dodge1612

    did you guys see barroids make those stupid remarks to torre… what a jackass… I booed him from my seat, made alot of giants fans mad

  172. tradejuanpypaperbag

    trublue44 ~ I haven’t heard an opposing announcer yet not talk about how Andre always takes good at-bats, whether they are outs or not. He is either (ethier) hitting the ball or has had an excellent pitch count, but to hear Giants announcers say that, it sounds pretty great!!
    .
    and yes, I saw Dara’s race, too.

  173. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Dodge16 ~ of course we did, and then we had to listen to him repeat it a few times up in the broadcast booth with Kruk, and then after Barry left they kept showing is famous homerun over and over and over again and of course, it was always when the Dodgers were up to bat. We didn’t hear too many boos from listening on tv. Did you ever find jnv?

  174. kssssss

    Samjones

    The Dbacks have Webb going tomorrow…..I hope you’re right, but he has been the ace…..We needed this one tonight…..and we have such a difficult homestand coming up….4 with the Phils, 3 with the Brewers and 3 with the Rockies….Next week will be a sign of our season I think….

  175. swood@rcn.com

    To blame this loss on Manny is ridiculous. I agree that Manny doesn’t play the best defensive left field, but his bat more than makes up for a few fly balls that drop in here or there against him. The fault of tonight’s game goes to Broxton and his inconsistency.

  176. trublu4ever

    drpdedblnd — you are so right!! I’ve said that all along. Every time I see highlights on ESPN and someone hits a home run I say “former Dodger” and cry. I really don’t think being a manager is that hard. Most of the time they outhink themselves and make dumb mistakes. You just put your best players out there and let them PLAY THE GAME!

  177. tradejuanpypaperbag

    I feel the loss goes to management on this one. Too many issues with base running tonight, and then he should have left Kuo in the game.

  178. kpookiemon

    D-Backs have lost 6 of 7 and Torre STILL can’t get this team over .500 or into 1st place. And for all the evil fans, Orlando Hudson broke his wrist tonight in Arizona’s loss.

  179. tradejuanpypaperbag

    samjones ~ I agree with that play, too, but it all goes back to management throughout the game, not just the last inning.

  180. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    swood, you can keep blaming broxton.. but the fact is it never should have gotten to that point. a one run game in the bottom of the 10th. correia was pitching tonight, and the dodgers should have had more runs. it comes down to the fact that the dodgers only scored 2 runs on 10 hits.. not just broxton’s blown save

  181. kpookiemon

    I can’t wait until Manny gets another crack at Mr. “fist pump” Sadler. He’ll be Sadler but wiser after Manny tees off low and hard up the middle…

  182. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    joey i completely agree on manram’s shortcomings as a fielder. it’s one of the reasons i despise the guy.. he runs awful routes and even he even makes routine catches look like an adventure. maybe someone better catches those two balls today, but as much as i hate manram, i don’t think those two dink hits cost the game. they should have scored more runs..

  183. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    it IS that bad sam.. he has always been known as a great bat and terrible fielder

  184. tradejuanpypaperbag

    sam ~ I can live with his fielding, but not him and JP both out there, then we are just asking for trouble for anything that goes into the gap between them. I figure with Manny, at least we are trading a bat for defense, with JP we are trading nothing for nothing.

  185. kpookiemon

    What’s with the Manny haters tonight? He’s done nothing but lift this team up. Tell Broxton to get some nad or Joe to get some brains if you’re angry.

  186. bluecrewgirl

    With the way Bills has been pitching lately, I think we have a good chance tomorrow to take the game, that is if Torre fields the same lineup as today. Hopefully he will.

  187. dodgereric

    Tough loss tonight. None of it Manny’s fault. Bad luck with that K that got away. Not to put it on Russ, but if he keeps that in front of him, he gets the out at first and we don’t even go to the tenth.

  188. trublu4ever

    I agree with Sara too. We should have scored more runs. Every time we didn’t score & should have, my husband said that was going to come back and bite us in the , you know what, and it sure did!

  189. kpookiemon

    From Tony Jackson:

    “If this were a real division race — the kind in which two really good teams fight each other for the lead — this would be the kind of loss that could prove devastating for the Dodgers. But this is the N.L. West, where mediocrity ultimately will reign… This race is like a couple of 102-year-old guys who are trying to see who can go the longest without dying.”

  190. trublu4ever

    Sam, I didn’t think Penny was that great last night either. He was lucky we were playing the Giants. I don’t see him making it through the end of the season.

  191. bluecrewgirl

    I’ve questioned Penny’s physical fitness all season. The last time he looked really good was the first half of last season and he was about 20 pounds lighter and looked in much better shape too.

  192. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Hey eric!!! Welcome back dear!! I hope your trip was fun and successful. The boys will be glad you are back. They did a wonderful job while you were away. They didn’t get into too much trouble. We are glad you are back safe and sound, but I am sure you are tired. Glad you are back, though 🙂

  193. northstateblues

    I have a friend over from out of town, huge Giants fan. None of us mentioned the game tonight, though I kept checking it on my DS browser while watching the olympics. She never once mentioned the game.

    Giants fans REALLY don’t care anymore.

  194. dodgereric

    I don’t know if anyone posted this before, but it could reflect on the Ds’ “race” in the division with the Dbacks:

    “Orlando Hudson could miss the rest of the year with a dislocated left wrist suffered Saturday against the Braves.

    It’d be a major blow to Arizona’s hopes. “(It’s) not great, dislocation, fracture of a bone in his wrist, and we’re not 100 percent sure whether he has to have surgery,” manager Bob Melvin said. “Probably a pretty good chance, but we will know in the morning. If he has the surgery, he’s out for the rest of the year, and if he doesn’t, there’s still a chance he could be out for the rest of the year.”
    http://rotoworld.com/content/home_MLB.aspx

  195. northstateblues

    out of curiousity, what was it that Barry said about Torre? Asking if Clemen’s syringe needle was bigger than his?

    But seriously, what did Barry say?

  196. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    kpookiemon, i’ve never been a manram supporter.. but in no way did i blame him for this loss. someone happened to make a comment about his defense and i chimed in my thoughts.. that isn’t exactly all the manny haters coming out of the woodwork. sorry we’re not allowed to post our actual opinions because everyone is so enamored with the guy..

  197. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Eric ~ I saw it happen, and it looked awful. Whoever was sliding (I think McCann) fell right on his wrist, similar to what happened to JP and his knee. I actually like Orlando, but yes, it does hurt their team alot because he is a huge bat in their lineup, with speed.

  198. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    oh i was totally going to post tony jackson’s analysis of our situation.. but kpookiemon beat me to it. it was a good analogy by TJ.

  199. trublu4ever

    Barry told Torre he’d take him on and beat him. Said it felt weird being at a game against the Dodgers and not playing. Said he is not retired and told us, as if we cared, that he wants to and still can play.

  200. dodgereric

    Thanks June darlin’! Yep, more or less successful. The kids got their share of merit badges and quite a few suprised themselves as to what they could accomplish. That happens every year and it’s always a great thing to see.

    north, hear you are:

    “I want to thank the Giants for inviting all these great guys,” Bonds said. “It’s weird for me not to be in uniform with the Dodgers right there. You heard me Torre, I beat you before and I can beat you again. I haven’t retired. Thank you.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug10/0,4670,BBNGiantsBonds,00.html

  201. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Northstateblues – he told Torre “I have beaten you once and I’m going to beat you again” He also made reference to the fact that this is the first time he was at AT&T park without a uniform and the Dodgers were in the house.

  202. bluecrewgirl

    I know, Sara, kind of sad, but true. Still, I’ll take it. We would never still be in the race otherwise.

  203. dodgereric

    I’m guessing that Bonds beat Torre back when he was managing NL teams. I hope Torre waved to him with all four rings on his hands. Bonds would have no answer for that.

  204. saralovesrussell@losangeles-dodgers.net

    yeah bluecrewgirl.. a critical loss in another division can kill.. but in our division.. it’s just one more day off the calendar.. you’re always still in the race in the NL Worst

  205. tradejuanpypaperbag

    surpassing the A’s in anything hasn’t been too hard these days. They have lost 11/12 games straight. They are on a very steep downhill slide right now.

  206. tradejuanpypaperbag

    sorry ~ the A’s won yesterday snapping the 10 game losing streak, but then lost today to the tigers 10-2.

  207. dodgereric

    nelly, I really missed this stuff. While I was cruising around in the archives of the past seven days looking for songs, I saw some new posters. Are they still posting?

  208. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Yes, there are a few new posters. Umm – dodgersrule/rose is new a couple of days. Loves what we are doing with songs, etc, and will definitely be around. She sounds like she wants to write songs as well. Ummm – who else – ajay may be new to you, but has been around most of the week. ummm – xoxrussell was on a while ago, and has recently come back. Those are three I can think of at the top of my head.

  209. tradejuanpypaperbag

    There was one JP supporter where we spent the whole day in a debate with that person. We haven’t seen that poster since that day. We tried to make that poster feel like his/her opinion counted (I believe Amy was in on that conversation as well), but most of us were pretty bent out of shape over the treatment of Andre. I am assuming you have read all of what JP has been saying to the media. That had most of us livid, but very happy with how Andre is handling the situation. As you can tell by the songs and obi’s JP bubbles tonight, JP has been the topic of conversation around here. He deserves it this time, though.

  210. tradejuanpypaperbag

    our village idiot has found a way back on the site,but the damage has been minimal so far – it’s just ignored for now, and it seems to take care of the problem.

  211. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Well, I think JP has always deserved it, but he didn’t make his life easier by saying he thinks the Dodgers are sticking it to him and not giving him enough playing time. Well he hasn’t played in 3 out of the last 4 games, so maybe Torre finally is seeing something.

  212. dodgereric

    It’s funny how you can go back to spring training in the archives and see the same conversations.

    I don’t quite understand how people can get upset when they take up an insupportable position and then get proven wrong. Personally, I would like it if Pierre would take up a team-first attitude. I did check that link to his problems. It would appear from the time stamps that he was complaining about being treated unfairly while he was getting the starts over Ethier. Is that correct? If so, it’s hard to understand that.

  213. tradejuanpypaperbag

    yes, and on the flip side of that Andre was all about team first, and saying how he loved having Manny around because he can see him learning so much from him even sitting on the bench. This is the first time the media pretty muched nailed JP, and saying how he can complain about playing time when it’s Ethier is the one that should have the grip.

  214. dodgereric

    As far as our VFI (village you-know idiot), it takes all of my will power to stop responding to him. But since that’s exactly what he wants, we just can’t do it.

  215. dodgereric

    Yes, it looks to me that Ethier is doing everything the right way, the “old-school” way, if you will. It should get him the respect from the vets and vet-lovers that seems to be necessary to start for this team.

    I’m really tired from a long day and looking at another one tomorrow. I’ll talk later, kay?

  216. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Good night ~ glad you’re back!!! See you tomorrow – enchanted and jhall will be glad you are back,too 🙂

  217. obi_wen

    “Juan Says” [aka “Jane Says” –Jane’s Addiction ]

    Juan says
    I’m done with Ned and Joe
    Say I throw just like a ragdoll
    Joe hides

    His face away

    Says I don’t show him nothing,

    But if Dre sits out again

    Tell Joe, sit Druw down for me

    Or just

    Let me play tomorrow

    I’m wanna play tomorrow

    Gonna play tomorrow

    Juan says

    Have you seen my bat around?

    I feel naked without it

    He knows

    They all want him to go

    But that’s O.K. man

    He don’t like them anyway

    Juan says

    He’s goin away to the A’s

    When he makes it through the waive

    I’m wanna start tomorrow

    I’m gonna start tomorrow

    Gonna start tomorrow

    Juan gets mad

    Starts to cry

    He takes a swing but

    he cant hit

    He don’t mean no harm

    He just don’t know

    What else to do about it

    Juan goes

    To Stadium Way at 8

    He walk up from Elysian

    He waits

    And sees the lineup card

    He puts his pride

    In his pocket

    Juan says

    I’ve never been Gold Glove

    I don’t know what it is

    Only knows if some team wants him

    I want them if they want me

    I only know they want me

    He gets mad

    And he starts to cry

    He takes a swing man

    He cant hit!

    He don’t mean no harm

    He just dont know

    What else to do about it

    Juan says

    Juan says

  218. kpookiemon

    To highlight how average this team really is, the Dodgers have a better record than 8 NL teams, but a worse record than 7 of them. The mighty Texas Rangers have a better record than the Dodgers. So I ask, what grade shall we give Joe’s get for his first 4 1/2 months work? How about a C, a nice average C. Joe, you done the best you could, but it turned out pretty average. 2009 will be a much finer vintage with you and Logan White finally figuring it out.

  219. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Good Morning, ITD readers and writers!!
    .
    You did it again obi – TERRIFIC SONG!!
    .
    Good Morning, Wallly/jhall ~ It is great to have your father home. He will be very glad to see you and your brother.

  220. jhallwally

    Hey mom!! Tough loss last night. We managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
    Nice song Obi, and fun play with the thought bubbles. LOL!!!

  221. tradejuanpypaperbag

    jhall ~ The Dodgers had many opportunities to put the game away. I am not sure what Joe/Larry were thinking on some of their decision making last night, both in baserunning and the last inning with not bringing the infield in for a possible dp. Leaving Ethier stranded after that triple with no outs really hurt.
    .
    eric was caught up on most of what happened. He was really tired. It sounds like he read many of the articles posted and such. And, he also noticed some of the new ITDers, so I told him what I knew.

  222. tradejuanpypaperbag

    trublue ~ not too bad, really. They know Andre’s ball was fair, and they knew that could’ve been the game right there. Like the Giants announcers said, they were able to benefit from a bad call, and they were able to capitilize on that mistake in the 10th. If you think, Andre and Ozuna are both on base, with Jeff and Manny coming up. It really did change the momentum in the ball game. Even Michael knew it was fair ball so, he knows it should have been our game.

  223. trublu4ever

    You do have to wonder about Bowa’s abilities as a third base coach. Even before last night, he has made some odd decisions.

  224. trublu4ever

    I’m still bothered by that call on Andre’s “hit”. The idiot umpire was standing right there and blew it! I think they should fine umpires for making calls that decide the outcome of a game. Yea, sure! However, calls like that one could cost us a division title.

  225. jhallwally

    Good morning Tru. Failing to score Andre from 3rd with no outs is flat out unacceptable. And that bad call was just a darn shame and inexcusable.

  226. trublu4ever

    Jhall, you are so right about not scoring Andre from third. I just hope Torre uses the same players today. I think, if given the chance to play everday, they will do a good job.

  227. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Okay ~ there was another picture with the caption as having Andre Ethier as our catcher. That article was out of the SF area – that would be something – a left-handing catcher. I have seen it, but it’s very rare.

  228. jhallwally

    Loney, Martin, and Blake a collective 1 for 13 with 11 left on base is the real bottom line of why we lost this game. That just isn’t going to get it done.

  229. jhallwally

    Plus an 0’fer from Kemp. Against a mediocre pitcher. The offense failed miserably. Should not have come down to Brox in extra innings. However, they did manage to eke out an apparent victory, and Brox gave it away. Brox still needs some seasoning to be an effective closer. More growing pains I guess.
    As an aside, Bonds sounded like the boob he really is at the pre-game ceremonies.

  230. trublu4ever

    jhall, you are right about the trio, let’s hope it’s better today. Good grief, we are only playing the Giants!

  231. jhallwally

    Yep, it is imperitive that we beat up on the inferior non contending teams if we want to take this division. After the G’nats we’ve got 2 real good teams to play and then the Rocks. Could be a make or break stretch for us. At least it is at home.

  232. tradejuanpypaperbag

    jhall ~ I am not a Bonds fan by any means, but the Giants organization has been treating him terribly. They have pretty much eliminated any thing that resembles Bonds at AT&T park, in which he was the reason they built the park in the first place. Then the Giants organization asked him knowing he was not able to come (He was on vacation with his family) He changed his plans in order to be there. Then to ruin it, he had to make those stupid comments,and then we (those of us living in nor-cal) had to listen to it over and over again, not to mention his famous record-breaking homerun. I kept leaving the room when they would start talking about that stuff because it was always when we were batting. Plus, the on the field announcers kept talking to the outfielders who were being honored (which is great), but they kept doing while we were batting. It was not fun watching the game as a Dodger fan. It was Giant fan overload. LOL!!

  233. trublu4ever

    You are right about a make or break series of games. I want Manny to hit one out today so Kuip & Krukow can say “Boy he crushed that one”! Not that getting singles is bad, but I love for our guys to hit home runs at AT&T!

  234. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Not to mention I really, really hate the “Beat LA” chant, not that any of us do. It seemed especially bad last night. It will be interesting to see what jnv thought. Dodge16 checked in last night. He said he left after Jeff hit his homerun because he knew it wouldn’t end good, knowing who was coming up to bat for the Giants.

  235. trublu4ever

    dnelly, I know what you mean about the Bonds thing. And, he was so nice and personable when he was in the booth, did like Manny though — probably wants us to sign him — lol

  236. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Yes, Bonds was doing a good job with Kruk and Kuip, but how much of that was marketing himself so somebody will want him on their team.

  237. trublu4ever

    Jhall, I agree that Bonds is a bum. But, the G’nat fans are not really baseball savvy, they boo Jeff Kent every time he bats — they let him go. All they know is how to boo, chant beat LA, when were are at bat, can’t beat us unless they are batting, and throw things at whoever is in the outfield. Very uncool, indeed.

  238. jhallwally

    LOL Tru!! And so true. Bonds would have come off much better had he just doffed his cap to the fans and thanked them and the G’nat for having him there and all their (misplaced IMO) support. Instead he had to go and toot his own overblown horn.

  239. tradejuanpypaperbag

    jhall ~ that’s exactly what he did! It will interesting to hear what the radio talk show hosts have to say in the next few days. They have been especially hard on him thinking he wasn’t going to show up.

  240. trublu4ever

    You see, Bonds was talking to Joe last night, and Torre is thinking, hey we can use him as a pinch hitter to replace Sweeney — doesn’t Joe like the old guys?

  241. tradejuanpypaperbag

    trublue ~ not funny 🙂 That’s as bad as picturing Andre in orange and black last night – yuck!!!

  242. trublu4ever

    I know, but you know he lives in LA and I think he’s always wanted to be a Dodger. Or, maybe they’ll hire him to be Andruw’s hitting instructor — didn’t he say that when he retired, he wanted to help at the college level — already showed up at UCLA to help their team.

  243. tradejuanpypaperbag

    Yes, he did say all those things, but I hope he stays with UCLA. I was glad to hear he wasn’t helping ASU. I guess those were his before bad Barry days, though, so maybe that’s where he should be – at the collegiate level, if they will have him.

  244. rintinjim310@yahoo.com

    Hopefully Kemp’s 2 assists convinces Joe that Jp doesn’t belong in center field on this team.

    Mistake to take Kuo out after only 8 pitches in 9th.

    Notice how deep Manny plays to mask defensive shortcomings. Gave up catchable fly in ninth.

    Generally, both he and Kent should come out late when leading. Bring in the defensive closers too.

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